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SmyslovFan wrote:
Short notice makes recommendations perilous.
An easy line to learn that is almost never seen is 2.b3.
Poucin's recommendation of the Wing gambit is certainly interesting.
I believe the French Advance Variation is pretty easy to learn in a few days. Of course, Black should be ready to face the Advance Variation, but Sveshnikov made it into a fearsome weapon.
If you're interested in the Advance Variation, go to chessgames.com or some similar database site and look at games played by Sveshnikov starting with
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5!
There are some variations where exchange variation is not good.Black if plays nicely or if white blunders,black win.Any tactical slip and black won!
There are many ways for white, one of which is
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.exd5 exd5 5.Bd3
this is some kind of "delayed" exchange variation. It's probably slightly better than the (rather pale) exchange variation 3.exd5.
Of course you have also to take into account 3... Nf6, now you might play 4.Bg5 or 4.e5 - the latter move leading to a typical French pawn structure. 4.Bd3 is not very strong, due to 4... c5 threatening c4, and both 5.dxc5 and 5.exd5 are welcomed by Black.
Wing gambit is also very good.
Mar 17, 2016
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I agree completely with Poucin, up to ~2200 strength. But that's an important point to bear in mind. Another IM friend of mine pointed out that when a master plays the Exchange variation against a lower rated player, he plays it to win. It is possible for White to play for an advantage even in the Exchange. As Watson pointed out, exchanging a single set of pawns shouldn't make the position drawish unless both players want to draw. Kasparov and Carlsen have both shown that White can play for the win in the Exchange.
Poucin's unstated point is that below ~2200, players of the White side don't generally know how to play for an advantage properly in the Exchange. Based on my own long experience in the French as a USCF expert, I agree completely! But when a master plays the Exchange to win, it's a different proposition.
Jenot wrote:
There are many ways for white, one of which is
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.exd5 exd5 5.Bd3
this is some kind of "delayed" exchange variation. It's probably slightly better than the (rather pale) exchange variation 3.exd5.
It's the Exchange Winawer. I'm crushing somebody with it in correspondence chess at the 2000+ level on a different server than chess.com where engine use is allowed. I think it should also do nicely in OTB, it will take Black out of his preparation.
Mar 17, 2016
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SmyslovFan wrote:
An easy line to learn that is almost never seen is 2.b3.
If I have Black against my friend Steve, the game will begin 1.e4 e6 2.b3 c5
Mar 17, 2016
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SmyslovFan wrote:
I agree completely with Poucin, up to ~2200 strength. But that's an important point to bear in mind. Another IM friend of mine pointed out that when a master plays the Exchange variation against a lower rated player, he plays it to win. It is possible for White to play for an advantage even in the Exchange. As Watson pointed out, exchanging a single set of pawns shouldn't make the position drawish unless both players want to draw. Kasparov and Carlsen have both shown that White can play for the win in the Exchange.
Poucin's unstated point is that below ~2200, players of the White side don't generally know how to play for an advantage properly in the Exchange. Based on my own long experience in the French as a USCF expert, I agree completely! But when a master plays the Exchange to win, it's a different proposition.
Getting a little tired of seeing this.
I play the exchange as white to win. So far I am 4 wins out of 4 games.
Why so much hate against white below 2200? ITS A SYMMETRICAL POSITION with white to move.
There is nothing for black... you people are delusional.
Mar 17, 2016
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Ziryab, yeah, that's how I often play it too. White doesn't get a theoretical edge, but he does get a position that is unusual. And if he's studied his set up, he should get an edge.
This is how modern chess is developing: there are "theoretical" lines such as the Tarrasch, and there are non-theoretical lines such as 2.b3. In order to play the non-theoretical stuff well, you really have to work hard to figure out what's going on. Karjakin has been playing non-theoretical stuff in the Candidates. As Svidler said, it takes much more work to play non-theoretical stuff than the theory. Basically, you have to vet your own lines and do a ton of work on it.
The advantage to 2.b3 as a one-off is that it's relatively easy to get a playable position and to see some basic ideas. Then you can build a repertoire around it if you like the resulting positions.
There's still time to play blitz games in these lines and see which are more appealing. Poucin's Wing Gambit is scary, but Black should be prepared to face it. Black is rarely prepared to face 2.b3, except in broad terms.
Mar 17, 2016
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#51
Steve's approach is to make his opponent play chess, often in a position that neither player finds comfortable. More often that not, he does better in the resulting time scramble.
Mar 17, 2016
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0110001101101000 wrote:
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Getting a little tired of seeing this.
I play the exchange as white to win. So far I am 4 wins out of 4 games.
Why so much hate against white below 2200? ITS A SYMMETRICAL POSITION with white to move.
There is nothing for black... you people are delusional.
I have a 100% success rate as Black in the French Exchange in USCF rated games. Even in bullet chess here, I have a pretty good success rate.
Here's my chess.com stats for the Black side of the Exchange French (all time controls):
Master GamesMy GamesOther Player... Online & LiveOnline ChessLive Chess
White
Black
| Move | Games |
White Wins
Draws
Black Wins
| |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3...exd5 | 39 |
|
Your game is of only unrated players.Which is no good at all.
poucin wrote:
2.d3 or 2.Qe2 may be more sound than wing gambit, but not sure they are better.
But its not the most important, as i told before (u should learn to read instead of shouting and telling craps), wing gambit is easy to learn and handle, no need to know so much, i can't say the same for KIA positions.
So its exactly what OP is searching, because he has just few days to prepare something...
The only person here telling people crap and nonsense is you.
The Wing Gambit is unsound.
The KIA is sound.
You are advising the OP to play hope chess in preparation for his Sunday OTB match!
I don't tolerate people who do such things.
You are a hypocrite.
You are an imbecile.
I have nothing further to say to you.
Mar 17, 2016
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SmyslovFan wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
....
Getting a little tired of seeing this.
I play the exchange as white to win. So far I am 4 wins out of 4 games.
Why so much hate against white below 2200? ITS A SYMMETRICAL POSITION with white to move.
There is nothing for black... you people are delusional.
I have a 100% success rate as Black in the French Exchange in USCF rated games. Even in bullet chess here, I have a pretty good success rate.
Here's my chess.com stats for the Black side of the Exchange French (all time controls):
Master GamesMy GamesOther Player... Online & LiveOnline ChessLive Chess
White
Black
I just started playing it. 4 for 4 in tournament games so far. I play 4.c4 and have used the games of Miezis as examples. I don't have any book, just used 10-15 example games to prep myself.
It strikes me as one of those positions which can be 0.00 for a long time, until it's suddenly very good for white.
Any tips for what you like to play against 4.c4 is appreciated. I've seen variations which seem to suck all the play out of the position, but I've yet to see anything that looks dangerous.
Mar 17, 2016
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#56
The wing gambit is not unsound. This is a lie. Even engines evaluate it as equal.
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
poucin wrote:
2.d3 or 2.Qe2 may be more sound than wing gambit, but not sure they are better.
But its not the most important, as i told before (u should learn to read instead of shouting and telling craps), wing gambit is easy to learn and handle, no need to know so much, i can't say the same for KIA positions.
So its exactly what OP is searching, because he has just few days to prepare something...
The only person here telling people crap and nonsense is you.
The Wing Gambit is unsound.
The KIA is sound.
You are advising the OP to play hope chess in preparation for his Sunday OTB match!
I don't tolerate people who do such things.
You are a hypocrite.
You are an imbecile.
I have nothing further to say to you.
You are the real hypocrite.It was invented by GM!!Your rating is only 1869.So be quiet.
Mar 18, 2016
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#58
I totally agree with Drifty_Mr_Knight post. I do not mean to sound rude, but it is not wise to insult anyone higher rated than you, especially an IM (when you are not even close to his rating).
@ stalkingwolf :
All suggestions in chess.com video series are good enough.
S.Williams's and Tatev Abrahamyan's.
And those in any french defence books, because french's specialists look exchange variation as a weak white replay and always try to find a black advantage.
It looks strange in a symmetrical position, but exchange here doesnt favour white : his 3rd move will enable black to chose the good set up (which can be different on 3.Bd3, 3.Nf3, 3.c4...).
I used to play J.Watson's Play the french (2nd edition) when i played the french, with very good success.