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How to lay against the Reti?
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Uphigh100percent wrote:
I am a Kid and Pirc player as black.I know the Benoni, the Benko Gambit and Najdorf.Few times I play against the Reti opening and, besides needing to play against it I do not think that I should devote a lot of time to prepare against it?Is there an easy and even position to play as black in 1500-1900 rating?
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If White stays in the Reti opening and niether White nor Black transpose, the best defense against the Reti is Capablanca's Defense.
If you're already familiar with the Benoni and the Benko, just push the pawn and you should be comfortable with the resulting positions. Chances are your opponent is going to go into something closely resembling a reversed Benoni, unless he stabs forth with an immediate b4. You're covered idea-wise either way.
Jan 14, 2014
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#6
Alright, serious mode now. First off, do you mean Reti as in just 1.Nf3, or the true Reti opening, as in 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4? I'm assuming you mean just Nf3 players. The easiest system to play against these lines would probably be what Vishy tried against Magnus with 1...d5 2...g6. Gives you a stable position as well as flexibility with your c and e pawns depending on whether white plays a true KIA or plays double fianchetto Reti stuff or other semi-English lines such as that.
1.Nf3 isn't a Reti any more than 1.e4 is a Ruy Lopez.
Jan 14, 2014
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Fairy_Princess wrote:
1.Nf3 isn't a Reti any more than 1.e4 is a Ruy Lopez.
Yes but databases and even GMs call 1.Nf3 the Reti nowadays, which is why I wanted clarification. The actual Reti line of Nf3 d5 c4 is basically dead...
Yes.
Other options (like 3.d4) are not and the opening is still strong one for white.
Am "experimenting" with the Reti at the moment and success rate is greater than 50% which is not bad considering do not really know what I am doing.
Despite not making any ground against Anand Carlsen played it several times at start of 2013 WCC Championship.
If you play the KID you can use that against the Reti
Tks for the answers.Gave me wyas to start testing my game
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:
Fairy_Princess wrote:
1.Nf3 isn't a Reti any more than 1.e4 is a Ruy Lopez.
Yes but databases and even GMs call 1.Nf3 the Reti nowadays, which is why I wanted clarification. The actual Reti line of Nf3 d5 c4 is basically dead...
What are you talking about? The Reti gets played a ton, even among super GM's.
Fixing, why would you say that the Reti is dead? I mean, it's clearly less popular than most e4 and d4 lines, but it gets played at least much as the English. I'm not aware that anyone has refuted the Reti, and it is still very much a viable opening for White (although White has to be ready for transpositions to lots of different openings).
Jan 15, 2014
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pt22064 wrote:
Fixing, why would you say that the Reti is dead? I mean, it's clearly less popular than most e4 and d4 lines, but it gets played at least much as the English. I'm not aware that anyone has refuted the Reti, and it is still very much a viable opening for White (although White has to be ready for transpositions to lots of different openings).
I'm talking about the actual Reti line, not 1.Nf3, this is proof of my initial point about people calling 1.Nf3 the Reti.
Jan 15, 2014
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Fairy_Princess wrote:
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:
Fairy_Princess wrote:
1.Nf3 isn't a Reti any more than 1.e4 is a Ruy Lopez.
Yes but databases and even GMs call 1.Nf3 the Reti nowadays, which is why I wanted clarification. The actual Reti line of Nf3 d5 c4 is basically dead...
What are you talking about? The Reti gets played a ton, even among super GM's.
Show me. That line is almost never played anymore, certainly at the super GM level. I haven't even seen it played ONCE over the past year at the highest level. Keep in mind I am talking about the Reti Opening MOVE ORDER, not just 1.Nf3 openings or transpositions.
pellik wrote:
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:
Fairy_Princess wrote:
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:
Fairy_Princess wrote:
1.Nf3 isn't a Reti any more than 1.e4 is a Ruy Lopez.
Yes but databases and even GMs call 1.Nf3 the Reti nowadays, which is why I wanted clarification. The actual Reti line of Nf3 d5 c4 is basically dead...
What are you talking about? The Reti gets played a ton, even among super GM's.
Show me. That line is almost never played anymore, certainly at the super GM level. I haven't even seen it played ONCE over the past year at the highest level. Keep in mind I am talking about the Reti Opening MOVE ORDER, not just 1.Nf3 openings or transpositions.
I havn't been updating my database for the last year, but two to three years ago it's seen some play from Kramnik, Aronian, and Grischuk to name a few.
At normal GM level it's popular now too. Many GMs have taken to it because it provides a sharp and less theoretical option against Slav players. Delchev's book is a good starting point to understand why it's becomming more popular now.
You don't really have to update your database to see this. Every online database in the world will show plenty of Retis at 2700 plus.
As you say, so much of it is because of how popular the Catalan has become. People play the Reti lines because they can play the anti-Slav pure Reti lines with the critical early g4 push, yet still reliably get their Catalans against e6 lines.
Thx to those backing me up.
I don't know how to link directly to Reti results, since the databases I know of run in Java applets, but you can certainly check for yourself at database.chessbase.com or chesslab.com and see a bunch of recent results.
Surprised there would be dissent about this. But oh well.
Jan 16, 2014
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#19
I checked a couple databases as well and although it has been played slightly more than I thought, it certainly isn't played a "ton" or even close. Most of the tries by the big guns are in rapid/blitz formats.
I am a Kid and Pirc player as black.I know the Benoni, the Benko Gambit and Najdorf.Few times I play against the Reti opening and, besides needing to play against it I do not think that I should devote a lot of time to prepare against it?Is there an easy and even position to play as black in 1500-1900 rating?