How to refute this one? 2. Qe2 French

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Hello chessfriends,

I am a career french player and love the positions which I achieve through the french defence but can anyone give a suggestion of how to refute the rare but tricky white line with 1. e4 e6 and 2. Qe2.  I think black is fine but I am pulled out of my comfort zone a bit, any tips of how to counter this please? Thanks a lot for your help!

JEMP7YMETHOD

There's no refutation.  Have you ever played 1.e4 e5 as Black?  If so you might want to try 2...e5 against 2.Qe2, and then try to prove that White's queen is misplaced.

Dude_3
JEMP7YMETHOD wrote:

There's no refutation.  Have you ever played 1.e4 e5 as Black?  If so you might want to try 2...e5 against 2.Qe2, and then try to prove that White's queen is misplaced.

Qe7 seems optimal. Mirroring opponents always works.

Ziggy_Zugzwang
JEMP7YMETHOD wrote:

There's no refutation.  Have you ever played 1.e4 e5 as Black?  If so you might want to try 2...e5 against 2.Qe2, and then try to prove that White's queen is misplaced.

I agree...

I posted something similiar a couple of months ago on a related variation:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/1e4-e6-2d3-d5-3-qe2-de-4de-e5---evaluation

Dude_3

In all seriousness, c5 or e5 are generally preferable.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

Yes, I reread my post and remembered the conclusion I arrived at.1e4 e6 2Qe2 c5 as a recommedation of Watson. However if the queen move is deferred: 1e4 e6 2d3 d5 3Qe2 de 4de e5 is worth a try.

JEMP7YMETHOD

Here's some existing discussion on 2...e5: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1335889682

dauber_wins

JEMP7YMETHOD wrote:

There's no refutation.  Have you ever played 1.e4 e5 as Black?  If so you might want to try 2...e5 against 2.Qe2, and then try to prove that White's queen is misplaced.

look at his rating. hes obv trolling. Im reporting this thread as spam

grenoulle3000
TheUndisputedGinger wrote:

Hello chessfriends,

I am a career french player and love the positions which I achieve through the french defence but can anyone give a suggestion of how to refute the rare but tricky white line with 1. e4 e6 and 2. Qe2.  I think black is fine but I am pulled out of my comfort zone a bit, any tips of how to counter this please? Thanks a lot for your help!

I've seen Qe2 played but not on move 2. The game I refer to is one played by Polgar. It played out 1.e4 e6, 2.b3 d5. 3.Bb2 dxe4 4.Qe2. Tactical play follows and white must castle long because of the threat of mate on the c-file. There's also a point where black has to give back the e-pawn.

JEMP7YMETHOD
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Dude_3

I like how people think that we care that they are untracking the topic.

poucin

2 steps :

- learn how to play against KIA set up, which is quite similar to Qe2

- learn how to play in same fashion against 2.Qe2.

And now, how to make this? Just watch these videos and enjoy :

https://www.chess.com/video/player/why-simon-loves-the-french-kings-indian-attack

https://www.chess.com/video/player/why-simon-loves-the-french-odds-and-ends

Easy to learn and effective.

grenoulle3000

Thanks puce ;-)

JEMP7YMETHOD
jengaias wrote:

So that is 1.e4 e5 with colors reversed.Many French defense players don't like to play this.

After 2.Qe2 e5 IM Buecker prefers 3.Qe3 for White (over 3.Qd1 -- why play as though you were Black).  I prefer 3.Nf3 Nc6 and now 4.Qe3

JEMP7YMETHOD
jengaias wrote:6 and now 4.Qe3

I was actually kidding but thank you for the info.

I still prefer 3.Qd1 and play Spanish as Black although white than 3.Qe3 but that's a matter of taste.

For meatier info follow the link in post #7 above

JEMP7YMETHOD
FrenchDefender wrote:

2. Qe2 is junk. Just play solid chess and white will be wondering why he ever played this thrash. 

Diakonia
TheUndisputedGinger wrote:

Hello chessfriends,

I am a career french player and love the positions which I achieve through the french defence but can anyone give a suggestion of how to refute the rare but tricky white line with 1. e4 e6 and 2. Qe2.  I think black is fine but I am pulled out of my comfort zone a bit, any tips of how to counter this please? Thanks a lot for your help!

Its move 2...there is nothing to refute.

whooooooooooooosh

2...c5! is a Sicilian where White's Queen looks a bit odd; 2....Nc6 3 Nf3 e5!? is an Open Game where White has the dubious extra tempo Qe2. If you want to play in a more French spirit, there's nothing wrong with 2...Be7 followed by 3...d5.

congrandolor
FrenchDefender escribió:

2. Qe2 is junk. Just play solid chess and white will be wondering why he ever played this thrash. 

Advicing "just play solid chess" is like to say just win, or just do the right moves.