i have been playing the benoni defense and i am now looking for a new opening

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CaDea_moa

I have been playing the Benoni Defense because I am not a fan of the Queen's Gambit and the London System. I do not enjoy the positions that arise from playing these openings. I have been playing the Benoni against 1.d4 and I have noticed that I continue losing games because of how sharp the opening is. I can't maintain the high level of calculation that is needed for long. So, I am looking for an opening that's easier to play or one that has more room for error. Any advice on an opening I can try.

satan_llama

Play queens gambit declined and mainlines. Solid and powerful.

satan_llama

You have to accept the fact that you cannot run away from the London, you have to face it and defeat it.

ThrillerFan

If you play the French, I have your answer. If not, you may have some wild gambits to deal with, but the London is dubious at best against the Dutch.

1.d4 e6 2.c4 (2.Bf4 f5 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nf3 b6! 5.h3 Bb7 and Black has already equalized as he gets his bad Bishop on the long diagonal before White does) 2...f5 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 d5 5.Nf6 Bd6 6.O-O c6 7.b3 Qe7 8.Ne5 O-O 9.Bb2 and now Moskalenko's idea of 9...Nbd7 followed by ...a5.

If you don't play the French and go 1.d4 f5, you have to be ready for 2.e4, 2.g4, 2.h3, 2.Bg5, and 2.Nc3. Against 1...e6, the first leads to a French, the next two are useless, the fourth is a blunder and drops the Bishop, and the last Black can respond with 2...d5 and you have avoided the Queen's Gambit. It will be a French (3.e4), Jobava Attack (3.Bf4), or a very weak line for White (3.anything-else).

tygxc

@1

"I am not a fan of the Queen's Gambit and the London System" ++ Why?

"I do not enjoy the positions that arise from playing these openings" ++ Why?

"I continue losing games because of how sharp the opening is"
++ You do not lose because of the opening, but because you make tactical errors

"I can't maintain the high level of calculation"
++ Maybe play something quieter, but you dislike Queen's Gambit...

"an opening that's easier to play" ++ Queen's Gambit

"one that has more room for error" ++ Queen's Gambit

CaroKannEnjoyer02
CaDea_moa wrote:

I have been playing the Benoni Defense because I am not a fan of the Queen's Gambit and the London System. I do not enjoy the positions that arise from playing these openings. I have been playing the Benoni against 1.d4 and I have noticed that I continue losing games because of how sharp the opening is. I can't maintain the high level of calculation that is needed for long. So, I am looking for an opening that's easier to play or one that has more room for error. Any advice on an opening I can try.

Slav (not semi slav), or QGD. They are more quiet, and have more room for error. You can also consider playing the nimzo, but the nimzo is also decently sharp. However, there is no running from the london.

chessterd5

the only way to avoid the London is to play 1.d4,c5 because white has to immediately decide what he is going to do with his d pawn. but this commits black to playing some type of Benoni. the old Benoni is fine at your level. or try the Benko, or the Checz Benoni. granted the Modern Benoni with e6 can get extremely complicated. the other transposition is if 1.d4,c5 2.e4,... you are now in some type of open Sicilian.

CaroKannEnjoyer02
chessterd5 wrote:

the only way to avoid the London is to play 1.d4,c5 because white has to immediately decide what he is going to do with his d pawn. but this commits black to playing some type of Benoni. the old Benoni is fine at your level. or try the Benko, or the Checz Benoni. granted the Modern Benoni with e6 can get extremely complicated. the other transposition is if 1.d4,c5 2.e4,... you are now in some type of open Sicilian.

Didnt they specifically say they dont like benoni

chessterd5
CaroKannEnjoyer02 wrote:
chessterd5 wrote:

the only way to avoid the London is to play 1.d4,c5 because white has to immediately decide what he is going to do with his d pawn. but this commits black to playing some type of Benoni. the old Benoni is fine at your level. or try the Benko, or the Checz Benoni. granted the Modern Benoni with e6 can get extremely complicated. the other transposition is if 1.d4,c5 2.e4,... you are now in some type of open Sicilian.

Didnt they specifically say they dont like benoni

yes. I did not explain myself well. I looked at one of his games and he is playing e6 going into a Modern Benoni but he is playing e6 at the wrong time. I was merely trying to suggest that there are other variations of the Benoni that might fit him better. which could change his mind about playing the Benoni. the other idea was which does he dislike more playing the Benoni or playing against the London? that answer could answer the problem for himself.

CaroKannEnjoyer02
chessterd5 wrote:
CaroKannEnjoyer02 wrote:
chessterd5 wrote:

the only way to avoid the London is to play 1.d4,c5 because white has to immediately decide what he is going to do with his d pawn. but this commits black to playing some type of Benoni. the old Benoni is fine at your level. or try the Benko, or the Checz Benoni. granted the Modern Benoni with e6 can get extremely complicated. the other transposition is if 1.d4,c5 2.e4,... you are now in some type of open Sicilian.

Didnt they specifically say they dont like benoni

yes. I did not explain myself well. I looked at one of his games and he is playing e6 going into a Modern Benoni but he is playing e6 at the wrong time. I was merely trying to suggest that there are other variations of the Benoni that might fit him better. which could change his mind about playing the Benoni. the other idea was which does he dislike more playing the Benoni or playing against the London? that answer could answer the problem for himself.

Makes sense.

CaDea_moa
chessterd5 wrote:
CaroKannEnjoyer02 wrote:
chessterd5 wrote:

the only way to avoid the London is to play 1.d4,c5 because white has to immediately decide what he is going to do with his d pawn. but this commits black to playing some type of Benoni. the old Benoni is fine at your level. or try the Benko, or the Checz Benoni. granted the Modern Benoni with e6 can get extremely complicated. the other transposition is if 1.d4,c5 2.e4,... you are now in some type of open Sicilian.

Didnt they specifically say they dont like benoni

yes. I did not explain myself well. I looked at one of his games and he is playing e6 going into a Modern Benoni but he is playing e6 at the wrong time. I was merely trying to suggest that there are other variations of the Benoni that might fit him better. which could change his mind about playing the Benoni. the other idea was which does he dislike more playing the Benoni or playing against the London? that answer could answer the problem for himself.

Thank you, I'll try the other Benoni variations to see if I'll fare better with them.

And since you say I play the move e6 at the wrong time, when is the best time to play e6?

CaDea_moa
tygxc wrote:

@1

"I am not a fan of the Queen's Gambit and the London System" ++ Why?

"I do not enjoy the positions that arise from playing these openings" ++ Why?

"I continue losing games because of how sharp the opening is"
++ You do not lose because of the opening, but because you make tactical errors

"I can't maintain the high level of calculation"
++ Maybe play something quieter, but you dislike Queen's Gambit...

"an opening that's easier to play" ++ Queen's Gambit

"one that has more room for error" ++ Queen's Gambit

I find the positions that arise from the London System and the Queens Gambit to be slow and boring. I enjoy a more attacking game.

But since you suggest the Queens Gambit, what variation of the Queen's Gambit allows for a more attacking game? I might change my mind if I find it interesting.