I'm bringing Damiano Defense back!

New series I am going to start up! To show you that 512 years has been wrong!!! Damiano was WRONG!! I Analyzed this game with Maximum. Opponent only made 1 blunder and 2 errors. Rest of the moves was Great or good! Sooo I am going to say this was a ligit game skillfully done.

In the damiano you actually regain the pawns easily, with Qe7

 2 blunders and 1 mistake for only 9 moves is quite a lot

The defence works very well if your opponent plays like a total patzer.

I believe the idea is to find openings that work well if your opponent plays well, and I don't think 2... f6 fits the bill.

Actually, this game is flat-out bad.

3... d5?? 4. Be2?? dxe4 5. Ng1 Bc5 6. a3?? Qd4 and Black wins. The problem is that White is doing swimmingly with the brain-dead simple 4. Bxd5.

I don't think this game is of any theoretical importance.

Besides, you probably played 5... Bc5 just trying to mate him on f2.

Any game with an opening blunder is worth nothing fron a theoretical standpoint.

Dude this defense is terrible. Beating weak players with it means nothing.

If you are serious about improving at chess you need to play sound openings.   You can play junk openings and confuse very weak players.  So what?  Who really cares? Beating beginners and novices is the chess equivalent of beating up an infant. 

1. e4 e5, 2. Nf3 f6?, 3. Nxe5 is about as close to as a forced loss in the opening as it gets.  Why handicap yourself on move 2?

There are three good second moves for Black after 1. e4 e5, Nf3.  They are: 2. ... Nc6, 2. ... Nf6, 3. ... d6.  There are good reasons for playing one of these. They have stood the test of time.  These are the moves you should play if you want to become better.  Anything else is a cheap trick.   Cheap tricks might make you look like a genius amongst other beginners, but in the long run playing like that is BAD for your chess, and will hamper your long term development.

The only thing is that whites knight can take e5 pawn if black takes the Knight it's game over for black!! I had a computer pull this off on me a while back where I took blacks pawn and computer didn't take back the knight. It crushed me. So I thought how increadible was that there was life in a defense that was thought to be dead for so long. 

Where is the harm. I am going to study it for fun and see maybe if you don't take back Knight you can still end in a killer combo opening. Maybe Damiano did us all wrong !!?? Who has there been in the last 500 years to challenge his statements recently with new technology. I bet we are missing something killer good by avoiding this defense all together!!

Ok Op. 500 years of opening theory are wrong. But your superior intelligence, along with your amazing ratings, will enlighten us.

EDIT: OP edited his first comment so that it seemed trollish. Well, I can also edit this one to say that, at first, he posted a serious (or seemingly serious) comment instead of the trash you see now.

Nope, the Damiano sucks. After 3. Nxe5 Qe7 4. Nf3 Qxe4+ 5. Be2 followed by Nc3, White is clearly better.

I like how extremely low rated players with big ego,  proudly shows their "epic" game and brag about it , while they completely miss the bigger picture. 

Jajakilroy, any chess engine can crush a human, maybe not out of the opening if the human is strong enough. I do not mean this in a rude way but... almost any engine can win out of the opening against you.

People are way too quick to crush an aspiring young player, who is new, if not altogether to the game, than at least to the rich amounts of knowledge and communication available about it. 

Despite his inexperience he already shows a very healthy dose of critical thinking - which is the one thing that carries a player up the rating ladder. He questions things and wants to understand them, refusing to rely on general statements such as "that opening is bad" - a very healthy and refreshing attitude. 

It's good that some posters show him variations and explain to him why in this case, "the opening is bad" is the right answer - as a beginner he definitely needs this kind of guidance. 

I say, keep the variations and the explanations, drop the attitude. A beginner player is discovering the chess community and chess discussion and analysis at a higher level than the one he's used to. This is an eye-opening process and there's no need to spice it with bitter or snide personal commentary.

I want to add here a word about "ego". "Ego" is healthy and is a lot of the reason why we enjoy chess, and playing games in general.

The chess.com community is generally not made up of Buddhists who are trying to reach spiritual enlightenment by separating themselves from their ego, becoming "one with the universe" and distancing themselves from sensations (good and bad) of the flesh.

Trying to neutralize the "ego" of others by force or by ridicule never leads anyplace good. Ask Bobby Fischer if you don't believe me.

i'm not a depraved christian

No. It is still rubbish. (see post 11).  If Black takes the knight he gets smashed and if he doesn't he has given up an an important pawn,  deprived his KN of its natural square, weakened the h5-e8 diagonal, and exposed his Queen to harrasment that will lead to falling behind in development.

A strong player might well beat a much weaker player out of this opening as Black,  just as Usain Bolt could give me a huge start and still catch me over 200 metres.  But  the win would be because Black is stronger, not because he played the opening well!

By all means keep playing 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6, but do it against strong players so that you will learn how bad it is, and not against players weaker than you, who you would beat no matter what weak moves you played in the opening.

Just to be correct in the naming of different ancient chess openings, 2….f6 is not Damiano’s Defense. Damiano’s defense in response to 2 Nf3 was 2….Nc6. Damiano’s Gambit is to play 3. Nxe5 in response to 2…f6. None of the ancient chess masters ever recommended 2…f6.

Therefore, Mr. OP if you want to prove Damiano and 500+ years of chess theory wrong you need to prove that 3….fxe5 is playable.

One more thing, there are lots of players here who play 2…f6, and learning to play Damiano’s Gambit from the White side will give you a number of victories, that otherwise you may have missed.

2... f6 is the Damiano Defense. 2... Nc6 is the mainline of the open game. No one is saying Damiano played 2... f6 or recommended it. In fact he wrote that it was bad and recommended the other move. It's just named after him. Sveshnikov called his like the Pelikan. History decided to rename it after him. If players got to pick which openings were named after them many openings would be named differently.

I don't get it; Bxd5 and also Nxe5 on move 2 will give white some advantage.

Back when Damiano was playing chess, there was no such thing as the open game, and there was no agreed upon mainline. In Damiano’s day it was generally agreed that 1 e5 and 2 Nf3 was the best way for white to start the game. These moves were know as the King’s Knight’s Game. The big question of the day, was what was the best second move for Black. Damiano recommended and played 2…Nc6, this became know as Damiano’s Defense to the King’s Knight’s Game, and later as Damiano’s Defense. This same process is also how 2…d6 became known as Philidor’s Defense. Furthermore, Openings are named after people who played them or advocated for them. Since Damiano did not play or advocate for 2…f6 it is not logical to call it his defense.

So as I said Damiano’s Defense is not the right Ancient name for 2….f6. Proving 2…f6 is playable is not proving Damiano was wrong when he said the best reply to 2…f6, is Nxe5. Proving 2…f6 is playable is not proving that 3…f6xe5 is playable. Damiano argument was about how white should respond to 2…f6. So as I said if the OP wants to prove Damiano wrong he needs to prove that 3…f6xe5 is playable, not that 2…f6 is playable.

As far as people today calling 2…f6 The Damiano Defense has little to do with the OP desire to prove Damiano was wrong.

I hope everyone decide to play Damiano defense, I promise to 1.e4 all the time.