Ethan_Brollier wrote:
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
Basically bricks is saying Sicilian sucks and Sampson, Samuel, d4 and I are saying it’s good
Wow. Me erasure
oop sorry Ethan
I ranked all 20 responses to e4 for black
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Jun 3, 2023
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#423
the caro is just a much slower french+ the lightsquared bishop is usually a liability and gets kicked around everywhere
also you dont get rapid queenside expansion in the caro and you are usually hiding in your little pyramid selling that white cant ever get in
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
Ethan_Brollier wrote:
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
Basically bricks is saying Sicilian sucks and Sampson, Samuel, d4 and I are saying it’s good
Wow. Me erasure
oop sorry Ethan
It’s all good
1. Sicilian: Black’s best chance for a win but very risky.
2. Open Game: Black can essentially force a draw as the Berlin, anti-Berlin, Giuoco Piano, Scotch, Ponziani, and Vienna are all incredibly drawish openings, and the Evans Gambit I believe is also a draw.
3. French: Black plays for a win and is willing to die trying. There’s so much untapped potential in this opening, you could likely become the best player in the world at a specific line if you tried hard enough.
4. Caro-Kann: Black plays for a draw here and can become quite proficient at getting it. However, with the existence of the Open Game’s insane draw potential, this opening’s existence is almost redundant, as there are better ways to play for a win, as well.
5. Nimzowitsch: Black announces that they are willing to accept a draw, but challenges White to play for a win, inviting dynamic chances into the game.
6. Alekhine’s: Black simply will not accept a draw, and similar to the French, this opening is incredibly risky and has a massive amount of untapped potential.
7. Scandinavian: Black challenges White to win a slightly better middlegame and endgame but on Black’s terms, much more difficult than it might first appear.
8. Modern: Black reveals no cards, and asks White to determine what game will be played.
9. Pirc: Black accepts the risk of the Alekhine’s alongside the worse middlegame and endgame of the Scandinavian playing the KID down a tempo, I don’t understand why people play this opening.
Ethan_Brollier wrote:
1. Sicilian: Black’s best chance for a win but very risky.
2. Open Game: Black can essentially force a draw as the Berlin, anti-Berlin, Giuoco Piano, Scotch, Ponziani, and Vienna are all incredibly drawish openings, and the Evans Gambit I believe is also a draw.
3. French: Black plays for a win and is willing to die trying. There’s so much untapped potential in this opening, you could likely become the best player in the world at a specific line if you tried hard enough.
4. Caro-Kann: Black plays for a draw here and can become quite proficient at getting it. However, with the existence of the Open Game’s insane draw potential, this opening’s existence is almost redundant, as there are better ways to play for a win, as well.
5. Nimzowitsch: Black announces that they are willing to accept a draw, but challenges White to play for a win, inviting dynamic chances into the game.
6. Alekhine’s: Black simply will not accept a draw, and similar to the French, this opening is incredibly risky and has a massive amount of untapped potential.
7. Scandinavian: Black challenges White to win a slightly better middlegame and endgame but on Black’s terms, much more difficult than it might first appear.
8. Modern: Black reveals no cards, and asks White to determine what game will be played.
9. Pirc: Black accepts the risk of the Alekhine’s alongside the worse middlegame and endgame of the Scandinavian playing the KID down a tempo, I don’t understand why people play this opening.
Probably the most accurate tier list I’ve seen today, I’d say the open is #1 but I prefer the Sicilian so this made me happy
d4iscrazy wrote:
guys i'm already winning against bricks
Lol. I’m on move two bc I just made that long detailed tier list
Jun 3, 2023
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#428
black should play for a win
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The turning point in my career came with the realization that black should play to win instead of steering for equality
-bobby fischer
d4iscrazy wrote:
https://www.chess.com/game/daily/525350119
watch how the closed gets beat in 10 moves
oh wow 💀
fatal blundee
TheSampson wrote:
d4iscrazy wrote:
https://www.chess.com/game/daily/525350119
watch how the closed gets beat in 10 moves
oh wow 💀
fatal blundee
blunder*
d4iscrazy wrote:
https://www.chess.com/game/daily/525350119
watch how the closed gets beat in 10 moves
d4iscrazy, you forgot to lose because the Sicilian is refuted.
IronSteam1 wrote:
PotatoesAndChess wrote:
6. Caro kann defense
It has a reputation of being solid, but there are so many ways that white can play aggressively, like Nc3 and the panic and the fantasy and the tal. Even if they play the main line, you're still a bit cramped. It's not a bad opening, but it's painfully overrated.
Ah, yes. The dreaded "Panic" attack. Like its namesake, this opening strikes fear into the heart of Caro-Kann players everywhere.
On a serious note, an experienced Caro-Kann player will be happy to face any of those variations (Panov included) - as they will have studied them all.
It's similar to an experienced French, Sicilian, or 1...e5 player - there's no opening variation you can throw at them that will surprise or discomfort them.
You'll have to outplay them, instead, in the middle-game or the endgame.
Bro auto correct is actually stupid
guys he’s over twice my rating, he could win with the wayward queen against me 💀
IronSteam1 wrote:
PotatoesAndChess wrote:
6. Caro kann defense
It has a reputation of being solid, but there are so many ways that white can play aggressively, like Nc3 and the panic and the fantasy and the tal. Even if they play the main line, you're still a bit cramped. It's not a bad opening, but it's painfully overrated.
Ah, yes. The dreaded "Panic" attack. Like its namesake, this opening strikes fear into the heart of Caro-Kann players everywhere.
The Panic Attack is where the Caro-Kann player dies from fear of the numerous ways that white can play aggressively.
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
guys he’s over twice my rating, he could win with the wayward queen against me 💀
Ahhh yeah ok, that's why
@scrumptiousbricks
I am a gothamchess fan. You are a gothamchess stan. We are not the same.
I’m gonna sin rn.
But Gothams Caro course actually isn’t bad gasp 😱
3.f4 is bad and gives equality and black an easy game