I want to learn the Ruy Lopez

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Pete Tamburro, in his new book "Openings for Amateurs- Next Steps", recommends the following books for those who want to learn the Ruy Lopez ...

1. Barden's The Ruy Lopez (already recommended earlier in this thread)

2. Lane's The Ruy Lopez for the Tournament Player

3. King and Ponzetto's Mastering the Spanish ("... may be the best book ever to explain the Ruy ..."; also recommended earlier in this and many other threads)

Lane also has a book "The Ruy Lopez Explained" ... does anyone know anything about this book? It has a 3 star review on Amazon, and that is all I could find on it.  

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Books covering the Ruy Lopez mentioned in this thread so far (not repertoire books; not books on the games of specific players):

  1. First Steps: 1.e4 e5 by J. Emms (2018) ... the most introductory of these books; large section devoted to the Ruy Lopez
  2. The Ruy Lopez by L. Barden (1967)
  3. The Ruy Lopez for the Tournament Player by G. Lane (1991)
  4. Mastering the Spanish D. King and P. Ponzetto (1993)
  5. Starting Out: The Ruy Lopez by J. Shaw (2003)
  6. The Ruy Lopez Explained by G. Lane (2005)
  7. The Ruy Lopez Move by Move by N. McDonald (2011)
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dannyhume wrote:

… Lane also has a book "The Ruy Lopez Explained" ... does anyone know anything about this book? It has a 3 star review on Amazon, and that is all I could find on it.  

"... this is a repertoire book for White, and as such Lane does an admirable job of providing White with enough fire-power without being overly complicated. He seems all too aware that you cannot reasonably expect to obtain an advantage against all of Black’s counters and shows that positional grinds are possible as long as White understands the positions that arise and knows what kinds of plans are needed to achieve success. ... I found the presentation to be balanced between short wins and longer positional battles. Furthermore, the games are all decently annotated to help White comprehend the opening and provide what is needed to succeed. This book should provide plenty of inspiration and new ideas for the new year. ..."

https://web.archive.org/web/20140626201436/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen80.pdf

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Thanks, kindaspongey ... that is an odd, general-sounding title for a book covering a specific repertoire for White.
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If I remember correctly, the book sought to prepare White to go for

, so there was reason to cover (in some form or other) a lot of traditional Ruy Lopez topics. Nevertheless, some traditional material (for example,

and

) was ignored.

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Jason169 wrote:
My Variation

first of all, on move 3 black could've played Qe7+ and after Qe2 blocking it, black could take the queen and after white takes it back with his king, white can't castle

 

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TheChessPro247 wrote:
Jason169 wrote:
My Variation

This is the variation that I thought of 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Bxc6 Exchange Variation 4... bxc6 I like this when I play black as I get the B column for almost nothing 5. Nxe5 Classic 5... Qg5?! 6. Nf3! Qxg2 7. Rg1 Qh3 White's advantage 8. d4 +- White is going to trap black's queen. Black is losing

first of all, on move 3 black could've played Qe7+ and after Qe2 blocking it, black could take the queen and after white takes it back with his king, white can't castle

Were you perhaps thinking of 5...Qe7 ?

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Then frickin' learn it dude. 

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TheChessPro247 wrote:

ill show you some matches

These are a joke. They are all three or four moves in. Won't help you a bit. 

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I tried learning it for a bit. I even got a really good book on it.

The problem was there was a ridiculous amount of theory. Even at the 1600 level (rapid), I was meeting people who were booked up to the 10th move in every variation, sometimes farther. I played the d3 variation instead of the older lines to cut down on the theory, turns out there is still plenty for that.

Also, it's a lot sharper than one might think. It leads to tough positions where there is a likely chance your opponent knows it by heart.

I then got a much smaller book on the Vienna. Haven't looked back since, as it is nice playing people who aren't booked up on it past move 6.

My advice: Stick with whatever you play against e4 e5. If you want to learn something new, learn the open Sicilian. You'll have a lot more trouble facing that.

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In spite of everyone being booked deeply booked up, did you think that your time with the Ruy Lopez indirectly helped you with the other parts of chess skill (tactics, positional play/strategy, endgames) compared to if you had played simpler openings, as others claim?
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dannyhume wrote:
In spite of everyone being booked deeply booked up, did you think that your time with the Ruy Lopez indirectly helped you with the other parts of chess skill (tactics, positional play/strategy, endgames) compared to if you had played simpler openings, as others claim?

Yes. The Ruy Lopez truly leads to good chess positions.

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WTH, where did kindaspongey go ?!?!?

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TheChessPro247 wrote:

this is a very common variation

I played this the other day, what would the next best move be for white?

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