I'm really bad at fianchetto openings?

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JamieDelarosa

Tarrasch opined it was necessary to occupy the center of the board with pawns, and pieces should be developed to support the pawn center. The Hypermoderns attack the center with pieces on the flanks, like the fianchettoed bishops.  I look at advantages in chess in categories; material, space, and tempos.  Tarrasch emphasized space.

Problem was, Tarrasch was dogmatic.

JamieDelarosa
BL4D3RUNN3R wrote:

Fianchettoed Bishops are the basis of latent dynamism. It's not about the Bishop on an open diagonal, it affects the whole board. That's why fianchetto openings like the Catalan are very popular nowadays.

Well said

Dualeco
ThrillerFan wrote:
samchessman123 wrote:

@ Antonin: Yes I have the same problems as you, thanks for continuing the discussion

After reading thriller fan and dr frank what I have gathered is

1. Either you are with Nimzovich (fianchetto) or Tarassh (control centre)

I have decided I'm with Tarassh, and now play without fianchetto. As thriller fan is saying many 1600 and lower players who use fianchetto don't know what they are doing and trying to be fancy, so you have an advantage when you stick to your strengths. May if I ever reach 1600 mark, I will study them.

The 1600 rating was an arbitrary number. It's is not a magic number that signifies the moment to suddenly study and play hypermodern openings. Some stick to classical openings their entire life. Maybe late in his career he adjusted, but look at Anand in the 90s when he went against Kasparov in the World Championship. Take a look at what he mostly played:

1.e4 as White - Classical Chess

QGA against d4 - Classical Chess

1...e5 against 1.e4 - Classical Chess

All I was saying was that whatever rating you are, 1400, 1600, 1800, 2000 even, if you don't understand the basic understanding of the openings, diving into highly theoretical hypermodern openings like the King's Indian, Nimzo-Indian, Grunfeld, Pirc, Modern, Alekhine, etc, and the English or Reti as White, is a huge mistake.

Classical Openings like the Double King Pawn openings (Spanish, Italian, and Scotch) and QGD follow every opening principle to the letter. Most others have some form of violation. Queen coming out early (Scandinavian), relinquishing the center (King's Indian), etc.

Hypermodern openings require a heavy understanding of what is going on or you will get mauled. Classical openings tend to be more "error-friendly". You make a mistake in the QGD (not outright blunder - just a small or medium error) and you might be worse, but still have a shot at survival. One mistake in the King's Indian Defense and it's lights out, especially for Black!

Too many players try to play that way off of sheer memory of moves, but have no earthly idea what they are doing, and the moment their opponent deviates, they are clueless.

If you play 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 b6?? as Black, you are clueless because you just proved that you don't understand the fundamental principle behind the Nimzo-Indian and Queen's Indian. I am not saying that you personally do this, but I have seen many amateurs play this exact sequence as Black. All you can do is shake your head when you see that!

Hi. What are you referring to as Basic understanding of openings? For what it's worth, people are listening to your advice very closely. That part is probably not basic?

Dualeco
BL4D3RUNN3R wrote:

Fianchettoed Bishops are the basis of latent dynamism. It's not about the Bishop on an open diagonal, it affects the whole board. That's why fianchetto openings like the Catalan are very popular nowadays.

What does latent dynamism really mean?

tygxc

@23

"What does latent dynamism really mean?"
++ The fianchetto bishop at g2 is powerful as it controls the long diagonal and not one, but two central squares: e4 and d5. Even if there are no immediate dynamic threats, they will manifest later, i.e. the dynamism is latent.

tygxc

@22

"Basic understanding of openings?"
++ The center, development, pawn structure.