Sure it's playable. I know a guy that went 7-0 in a tournament playing f4.
Is 1.f4 a playable opening?
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Jul 21, 2017
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#3
Sure that it's playable. In the case of From's gambit 1...e5 the accepted variation 2. fxe5 is better than the transposition to KG. 
Of course, I play it all the time in unofficial games.
Yigor wrote:
Sure that it's playable. In the case of From's gambit 1...e5 the accepted variation 2. fxe5 is better than the transposition to KG.
I'd rather attack than defend
Jul 21, 2017
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Bongoman2406 wrote:
a bunch of bad press
No such thing as bad press. Play f4 if you want.
yes. playable but aggressive.
why do patzers care about the prestige of an opening?
It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:
One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!
Says who?
In the end, white has the edge
The beginning of a game by Henry Bird (Playing white)
Jul 21, 2017
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#10
pfren wrote:
It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:
One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!
Sorry for my possible ignorance, but are you being sarcastic? Cause you called it a bad opening then showed the best player in the world, some say of all time, using this opening against another super GM and winning...
Jul 21, 2017
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#11
Cali_boy613 wrote:
pfren wrote:
It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:
One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!
Sorry for my possible ignorance, but are you being sarcastic? Cause you called it a bad opening then showed the best player in the world, some say of all time, using this opening against another super GM and winning...
He's being sarcastic.
Cali_boy613 a écrit :
pfren wrote:
It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:
One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!
Sorry for my possible ignorance, but are you being sarcastic? Cause you called it a bad opening then showed the best player in the world, some say of all time, using this opening against another super GM and winning...
Bird,s Opening Google it.
Jul 21, 2017
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#14
I figured he was, but there's sooooooo much weird sarcasm on these forums (yigor is probably the most blatant example) I just don't really know anymore.
By the way, if your reading this yigor, I'dont mean this in a negative way. You seem like a pretty nice guy
By the way, if your reading this yigor, I'dont mean this in a negative way. You seem like a pretty nice guy
Jul 21, 2017
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#15
Cali_boy613 wrote:
I figured he was, but there's sooooooo much weird sarcasm on these forums (yigor is probably the most blatant example) I just don't really know anymore.
By the way, if your reading this yigor, I'dont mean this in a negative way. You seem like a pretty nice guy
By the way, if your reading this yigor, I'dont mean this in a negative way. You seem like a pretty nice guy
No problem, thanks for the compliment.
It is a little hard for me to understand why black wins more than white in this opening. https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=2&n=67&ms=f4&ns=67. Maybe its because the white player often plays it as a lark, I dunno. But it certainly makes me cautious about adopting the opening.
Jul 23, 2017
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#18
f4 is a good move!! 1st of all, it leads to a comfy trade and the WORLD CHESS CHAMPION played it.
I know about fools mate:
but only begginers follow that trap
because seriously-why play g4?
you would rather play g3...
this is not really a game
1. f4 is playable, but there is a reason why black has a higher winning percentage against it than 1. d4 or 1. e4. Moving the f-pawn that early does create positional weak spots along the g1-a7 diagonal. The squares around the king are also weakened by that early f-pawn advance, g3 and e3 are vulnerable with one less pawn to defend those squares. White can try to minimize that by playing into a Stonewall setup with pawns at f4, e3, d4 and c3, but that creates a hole at e4 and makes the dark-squared bishop limited. One can have a certain level with success with it at the club level, but at the higher levels of competition, the positional concessions you make in this opening will be exploited by the top players.
Even though 1.f4 is given a bunch of bad press, I feel that it is completely playable in tournament games. On 1...e5, white can transpose to a king's gambit, and in the case of 1... d5, 2.Nf3 c5 3.e3 Nc6 Bb5, intending Bxc6 to secure e5. The last reason is why Henry Bird plays 1.f4. After all these lines and facts, I feel 1.f4 is completely playable. What do you think?