my feel is that white can just delay d4 indefinitely. Rb1, Nf3, O-O, maybe Qa4... of course black has no immediate problems, but white has some nagging pressure.
u r right here pawn push can be avoided for some tym by making some logical peice moves
OK, here's our game:
I think KingGs is a sock puppet for Yereslov. A mistake like Nxc3? How can that be a mistake? Players like Morozevich have played it. It's a completely logical move.
if Morozevic plays a move it cant be always right they are human beings to make mistakes , i dnt find a logice behind Nxc3 at all while e6 makes more sense to me.
@MSC
I am stunned how black was not able to win this
@moon
I think you are right. I thought there should been a difference that white didn't played d4 or e4 yet, but as you explained earlier e3 is just a waste of air. And d4 is just somewhat forced to play if you ever want to make any progress.
white can bring peices out too
Nb6 > Nxc3 > e6 imo
Nb6 is the best attempt to keep some life into the position (though still not too great), while e6 just makes a mess out of the dark squares and makes my h-pawn itch.
i ask each one of you to go through following video and you all can see why Nxc3 is a mistake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf20YGtf9LA
if Morozevic plays a move it cant be always right they are human beings to make mistakes , i dnt find a logice behind Nxc3 at all while e6 makes more sense to me.
Nxc3 is
1) A database move
2) A move that appears in all sort of positions
3) Like move 4 in a chess game. Did you really think top GMs make mistakes the first 15-20 move, they rarely do.
@MSC
I am stunned how black was not able to win this
i would be stunned to knw a winning plan for black ?? can you plz suggest smthng intresting
@Kings: I understand that the knight comes from g8 and made a few moves to exchange on c3 and that this often is in favor of white (he won a tempo) however in the remaining structure the white bishop in on g2 and it can very seriously be argued that the bischop is not placed that wel there. Thus the tempoloss versus the slightly worse position of the bishop.
@loveyousomuch: Pressure against what ? black certainly has no weakness and if you give him time he will complete his development and the tempo you gained by Nxc3 is useless. I never denied that white is still slightly lightly better but he certainly did not improve his position and black has a pretty solid plan to equalize with Bg7/Nc6/Qd7/b6 etc
@MSC
I am stunned how black was not able to win this
i would be stunned to knw a winning plan for black ?? can you plz suggest smthng intresting
c3 and e3 just asks for Qd3...
if Morozevic plays a move it cant be always right they are human beings to make mistakes , i dnt find a logice behind Nxc3 at all while e6 makes more sense to me.
Nxc3 is
1) A database move
2) A move that appears in all sort of positions
3) Like move 4 in a chess game. Did you really think top GMs make mistakes the first 15-20 move, they rarely do.
an engine move by fritz 6 is considered to wrong by houdini3.0 and the way chess is improving evry tiny detail is considered and may be by going through the video i suggested u get ur answer from GM Akobian..:)
But I realise we are all talking to someone who refuses to taky any criticism nor any advise. So I am out of here, have a good one.
@Kings: I understand that the knight comes from g8 and made a few moves to exchange on c3 and that this often is in favor of white (he won a tempo) however in the remaining structure the white bishop in on g2 and it can very seriously be argued that the bischop is not placed that wel there. Thus the tempoloss versus the slightly worse position of the bishop.
@loveyousomuch: Pressure against what ? black certainly has no weakness and if you give him time he will complete his development and the tempo you gained by Nxc3 is useless. I never denied that white is still slightly lightly better but he certainly did not improve his position and black has a pretty solid plan to equalize with Bg7/Nc6/Qd7/b6 etc
during the game i was more concerned about my other bishop , the dark squared bishop tht was a real bad peice if it was a better peice white can easily win the game , i did smthng wrong with my dark squared bishop.
But I realise we are all talking to someone who refuses to taky any criticism nor any advise. So I am out of here, have a good one.
u gotta talk to American GM Mr. Akobian why he finds Nxc3 a bad move thts it thnkz for ur ideas though.
A GM once told me that Bb5 is the best way to get an advantage after e4-e5.
Okay at the GM's position the knight was on c6 but who cares ??
A GM once told me that Bb5 is the best way to get an advantage after e4-e5.
Okay at the GM's position the knight was on c6 but who cares ??
in this position does Bb5 really makes any sense?
See my point ?
The position from GM Akobian is not the same as your position there are several key differences. These key differences make it that Nxc3 is a bad move in GM Akobian's position but not in your position.
Just like there is a big difference for Bb5 to be a good move if the knight is on c6 of f6 :)
yeah, something like that. i've also played the black side of this a few times and i didn't have fun in any game, it's not too easy to find plans for black while white didn't commit any of his center pawns.