The Danish. 1.e4 e5 2. d4 ed 3. c3
and see of your opponent is a man or a coward.
Is the danish gambit sound?
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May 4, 2017
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#23
DeepFlight12 wrote:
penandpaper0089 wrote:
DeepFlight12 wrote:
penandpaper0089 wrote:
Another problem is that if Black takes one pawn and refuses the others White has to play a Goring gambit. So the Danish isn't even a complete answer to 1...e5. You may as well just play the Goring...
Say what ???
Just why is White forced into playing the Goring?
Black can play 1.e4 e5 2.d4 ed 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.c3 dc 5.Bc4 and now either 5...d6 or 5...Bb4 decline the Danish and White will have to capture on c3.
Been thru this. White is not forced to capture on c3
If White doesn't capture on c3 and Black doesn't want to then the pawn will sit on c3 unless ...cxb2 leads to checkmate somehow.
It's not a question of bravery in maneuvering pieces of plastic to me but practicality. Preparing for something I'll only play against once or twice a year just isn't practical and a waste of time in my view. So I just don't bother to take all the pawns.
May 4, 2017
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#25
DeepFlight12 wrote:
Yigor wrote:
As a gambit with 2 sacrificed pawns, it's surprisingly good! It's evaluated by engines at approx. -0.5/-0.6. The best continuation for black is 5...Nf6! In the most popular Schlechter defense 5...d5 white takes back 1 pawn and almost equalizes.
5. ...Nf6 loses outright. Beware of false claims.
Beware of false claims too without any justification.
Post your so-called "outright winning variation". Here is mine:
May 5, 2017
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#26
6. Nc3 (not e5) ... Nc6 7. Nf3
Stockfish can hold as Black, but what mortal would want to try ?
May 5, 2017
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#27
After viewing the Danish Cracker link, be sure to check the link to the Danish Cracker Cracker blog ! The refutation of the refutation! Good chess there. Point is .... Stockfish can hold the opening for Black and win many moves on down the long road, but in practicle terms, very few mortals like being on the defensive side of it.
May 5, 2017
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#28
White is not losing... thus it is perfectly sound... is it good, not sure but it is 100% sound
Danish Gambit is unsound: 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Ne2 dont't capture the e-pawn now but play 7...0-0 8.0-0 c6 9.Qd4 Be7 10.Rad1 d6 11.Ba3 Ne8 12.e5 d5 and Black wins
May 5, 2017
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#30
Oh I don't know.... Why assume that after 8.____ c6, that White will automatically play 9. Qd4? Suppose White plays 9. Qb3. Can you still win a bishop? I don't see how. And White is maintaining the pressure. As a fan of the Danish Gambit, I would like to read your response.
I think It is pretty sound as gambits go. You go down 2 pawns but you are keeping all your kings pawns intact, and you have a vicious battery on kingside with queen. It is very natural development and play, and it is sometimes easier for black to just give you your pawn back as e5 is pretty isolated.
btw, as to the OP's question of why not do something similar in the Smith-Morra Gambit, I think I'd say it's not as clear that neither of white's bishops are as great as they are in the danish gambit.
Since black hasn't committed his e-pawn in the sicilian, the move e6 would immediatly blunt the diagonal of the light-squared bishop. Now I know that in the Smith-Morra white does develop the light-squared bishop to c4, so you could say what's the difference? Well white has other ideas in the Smith-Morra than that which provide him with compensation for the pawn. The open c and d files for his rooks in particular. The bishop on b2 isn't quite as threatening either I suspect. With blacks plan in the sicilian usually involving play on the queenside, the bishop may become a tactical target to pawn pushes and moves like Qb6. Those are just my thoughts though 
May 6, 2017
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#34
Comeaux wrote:
Many great Danish miniatures exist, this is still one of my favorites.
That's just so cool.
Boris Alterman (author of "Alterman Gambit Guide") on the Danish Gambit...
https://chesslessons.wordpress.com/category/danish-gambit/
Sites featuring the Danish Gambit, among others...
http://www.ianchessgambits.com/danish-gambit.html
http://www.thechesswebsite.com/danish-gambit/
The book...."Alterman Gambit Guide - White Gambits"....covers the Danish Gambit...
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Alterman-Gambit-Guide.pdf
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/products/1/59/the_alterman_gambit_guide_-_white_gambits_by_boris_alterman/
https://www.amazon.com/Alterman-Gambit-Guide-White-Gambits/dp/1906552533/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494082967&sr=8-1&keywords=alterman+gambit+guide
-Just 3...d5 removing white's fun.
A game I played this summer in an open :
"... the Danish Gambit, 3 c3, perhaps deserves more respect than it usually receives. ..." - GM John Nunn (1999)
Of course, that was about two decades ago.
Does Anyone have a good video about the Danish Gambit
Jun 25, 2020
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#39
Cali_boy613 wrote:
Wow, I expected more people to say it's bad.
What about if you were to sacrifice two pawns in the smith Mora?
The line would go:
1.c4 e5 2.d4 cxd5 3.c3 dxc3 4.Bc4 cxb2 5.Bxb2 *
What about if you were to sacrifice two pawns in the smith Mora?
The line would go:
1.c4 e5 2.d4 cxd5 3.c3 dxc3 4.Bc4 cxb2 5.Bxb2 *
The two pawn sacrifice in the Smith Morra is well known as unsound.
The problem is black can play e6, which stops the very important pressure on the f7 pawn.
The Danish on the other hand is sound, but it's not a good try for an advantage, as black equalizes extremely easily if they know their stuff. However, at the more intermediate levels where nobody studies theory it's perfectly fine.
Example:
penandpaper0089 wrote:
DeepFlight12 wrote:
penandpaper0089 wrote:
Another problem is that if Black takes one pawn and refuses the others White has to play a Goring gambit. So the Danish isn't even a complete answer to 1...e5. You may as well just play the Goring...
Say what ???
Just why is White forced into playing the Goring?
Black can play 1.e4 e5 2.d4 ed 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.c3 dc 5.Bc4 and now either 5...d6 or 5...Bb4 decline the Danish and White will have to capture on c3.
Been thru this. White is not forced to capture on c3