Is the Stafford Gambit good or bad?

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Thisusernameistak

My friend once asked me what openings i usually play so i said wayward queen, four knights game or petrov's defense, then he told me about the stafford gambit and how it was really good. Honestly all that happens is Nxc6 then i retake with the pawn and that's it. Is the stafford gambit good?

Chuck639
Eric Rosen and IM really a likes it
Interpol_evil666

Yes

PranavBobbySekhar

I mean, there is a vid on how to refute it by GM Eugene Perelshtyn (I think I got the spelling wrong)

bla_w_gy
Stafford is *technically* unsound I think, but extremely venomous. It’s very tricky to refute.
DasBurner

your opening repertoire sounds so bad lol. Wayward Queen and Four Knights, yay

llama47

It's good for blitz, it's not good for a serious game.

gregory9310

Stafford is like the Englund. If your opponent does not know what they are doing, you can destroy them, but if they do, they can put some pressure on you.

sndeww

Bad

Thisusernameistak

i always thought of the Englund gambit as a cheap way to force a king's pawn opening when white plays queen's pawn

Chuck639
Thisusernameistak wrote:

i always thought of the Englund gambit as a cheap way to force a king's pawn opening when white plays queen's pawn

You can play into the Charlick (d6) or Stockholm (f6) variations with the two center pawns and get into a playable position but down a pawn as black. It’s great tactical  opportunities for both sides and you throw all the QG book theories out the window.

I am a believer of classical openings and defences so I am learning couple agains d4 as I’ll need them for rapid and progression to the 1500 benchmark.

blitzblunderz

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-BEES-

Engines are pretty skeptical about it. Stockfish is giving me almost a full pawn +0.93 at depth 23. That is a shame since it looks fun. It is very trappy, although I think the problem is its utility in blitz is diminished by Eric Rosen revealing too much about it. Everyone that sees his channel will know about it, so it's not much of a surprise weapon if most people see it coming eh?

 

The best gambits to go for are the uncool ones that nobody plays. Then fewer people will be booked.

bla_w_gy
-BEES- wrote:

Engines are pretty skeptical about it. Stockfish is giving me almost a full pawn +0.93 at depth 23. That is a shame since it looks fun. It is very trappy, although I think the problem is its utility in blitz is diminished by Eric Rosen revealing too much about it. Everyone that sees his channel will know about it, so it's not much of a surprise weapon if most people see it coming eh?

 

The best gambits to go for are the uncool ones that nobody plays. Then fewer people will be booked.

+1

gregory9310

wow your opening repertoire sound like it really needs work. wayward queen attack is easy to defend if you are above rating 200(unless you are playing against Carlsen or Kramnik or someone, then they can take you down with wayward queen), 4 knights usually leads to long, grueling attrition warfare, which is not a good way to do anything if you have a low rating like you and me. Petrov's isn't bad but you need to know what you are doing.

Thisusernameistak

i started playing wayward queen after my first few matches on this site as a guest cuz someone would play that and take like every single one of my pieces in the few moves after

sndeww
-BEES- wrote:

Engines are pretty skeptical about it. Stockfish is giving me almost a full pawn +0.93 at depth 23. That is a shame since it looks fun. It is very trappy, although I think the problem is its utility in blitz is diminished by Eric Rosen revealing too much about it. Everyone that sees his channel will know about it, so it's not much of a surprise weapon if most people see it coming eh?

 

The best gambits to go for are the uncool ones that nobody plays. Then fewer people will be booked.

one of the reasons why my favorite gambit is the evans gambit grin.png

gregory9310
Thisusernameistak wrote:

i started playing wayward queen after my first few matches on this site as a guest cuz someone would play that and take like every single one of my pieces in the few moves after

Just don't play 2.g6. Then you will die. No Carlsen needed. I sometimes play the wayward queen just to have some fun, but I don't understand people who do it regularly as part of their repertoire.

Thisusernameistak

i learned not to play g6 and if someone plays g6 i play Qxe5+ then take the rook

gregory9310

I've tried the Stafford twice and both of the times they just hung their knight and one of them also hung a bishop(no idea why i'm still here)