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Looking for a white system?


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Goob63

And here come all the 'low rating' elitest/trolls. I want a system so I can stop looking at openings and opening theory, since I screwed my own development by looking way too much at it.

I have the french AND caro incase I rematch someone a few times, in case of if I want to join a tournament. And since the caro can transpose to a french in some sense(while trading off the shit bishop). I play a slav because I like that pawn structure, its simple to me, with easy breaks on the c or d file. I play KID because its a simple setup I saw when I was first playing chess and tried it out myself, and THEN learned it was an actual opening. Slav, french, caro all seem to have similar pawn structures to me so thats why I stuck with those. I want a SYSTEM for white so I have something I can play close to everytime Im white, then I can focus my learning of middlegame/endgame strategies and once I get a decent grasp on that then Ill come back to openings and its theory.

If Im too low to even play openings what the fuck am I supposed to do. 1 a4? 2 h4 and follow that up with two rook lifts? Sounds good.

 

Simple thread asking for opinions on systems. Not asking people to poke at my rating

blueemu
Goob63 wrote:
... what the #$%@ am I supposed to do. 1 a4? 2 h4 and follow that up with two rook lifts? Sounds good.

1. a3, and then transpose into one of your favorite systems for Black, but using the White pieces and with an extra move (a2-a3) already made. In some lines (Sicilian, Slav, KID Panno) that move will be useful.

Goob63
blueemu wrote:
Goob63 wrote:
... what the #$%@ am I supposed to do. 1 a4? 2 h4 and follow that up with two rook lifts? Sounds good.

1. a3, and then transpose into one of your favorite systems for Black, but using the White pieces and with an extra move (a2-a3) already made. In some lines (Sicilian, Slav, KID Panno) that move will be useful.

t'was sarcasm towards the trolls

turtlegamer

I really like the ponziani

blueemu
Goob63 wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Goob63 wrote:
... what the #$%@ am I supposed to do. 1 a4? 2 h4 and follow that up with two rook lifts? Sounds good.

1. a3, and then transpose into one of your favorite systems for Black, but using the White pieces and with an extra move (a2-a3) already made. In some lines (Sicilian, Slav, KID Panno) that move will be useful.

t'was sarcasm towards the trolls

I am, quite seriously, thinking of switching to 1. a3... at least, on a trial basis. I seem to do better with the Black pieces than with White; so perhaps I'll do even better if I play the White pieces as if I were playing Black... but with an extra move already made (a3).

Goob63

thats kinda the reason I want a white system and stuck with theoretical openings with black. London system is the Schallop(??) Slav in reverse, which I usually try against d4. KIA is a pretty universal setup, to my 'low level' knowledge.

 

Why not play 1.c4? Cant you run into some reverse sicilian lines? c4 can be played in your KIA too correct?

The_Ghostess_Lola

Play the Torre Attack....try it - you'll like it !

shell_knight
Goob63 wrote:

And here come all the 'low rating' elitest/trolls. I want a system so I can stop looking at openings and opening theory, since I screwed my own development by looking way too much at it.

I have the french AND caro incase I rematch someone a few times, in case of if I want to join a tournament. And since the caro can transpose to a french in some sense(while trading off the shit bishop). I play a slav because I like that pawn structure, its simple to me, with easy breaks on the c or d file. I play KID because its a simple setup I saw when I was first playing chess and tried it out myself, and THEN learned it was an actual opening. Slav, french, caro all seem to have similar pawn structures to me so thats why I stuck with those. I want a SYSTEM for white so I have something I can play close to everytime Im white, then I can focus my learning of middlegame/endgame strategies and once I get a decent grasp on that then Ill come back to openings and its theory.

If Im too low to even play openings what the fuck am I supposed to do. 1 a4? 2 h4 and follow that up with two rook lifts? Sounds good.

 

Simple thread asking for opinions on systems. Not asking people to poke at my rating

So yeah, pretty much exactly what I thought, and said I did too.  Don't know how that's a troll.

You do need openings.  In fact I think nearly all players need a little of everything.  It's a good plan to learn some openings and middlegame and endgame then start the sequence again and learn some more just like you said.

The openings that, IMO and others opinions, will help the most are classical openings.  In case you think that's a "troll" too, I myself play 1.e4 and answer e4 with e5 and d4 with d5.  I'm not a beginner but, in the grand scheme of things, I'm not advanced either.  Frankly other types of middlegame positions tend to confuse me or at least are more difficult.  My advice is to just play, and after each game look up what was played and learn an opening bit by bit each game.

If you have your heart set on a system, then I'd say go for the colle-zukertort.  Related types of openings are the english defense reversed, queen's indian reversed, and nimzo reversed.  Partly depends on where you put your king's bishop, d3 (zukertort), e2 (queen's indian), or b5 (nimzo / english) and whether you're putting your d pawn on d4 or holding it on d3 and possibly thinking of advancing c4.  I reference these so you might wiki them and steal some ideas e.g. trying to control d4 and e5 with your pieces (Bb2 and Nf3 and even with the pin Bb5) and often enough try to stir up an attack on the kingside.

Ormiston313

I like the system that starts 1.e4.  :)

kingsrook11
Goob63 wrote:

And here come all the 'low rating' elitest/trolls. I want a system so I can stop looking at openings and opening theory, since I screwed my own development by looking way too much at it.

I have the french AND caro incase I rematch someone a few times,

'Low rating' elitest/trolls??? I thought I was offering you some helpful advice, and that the advice would carry some weight as I am a better player than you. But, instead you have just thrown it back in my face.

The reason you would only want 1 choice against e4 (at your level and mine) is that the complexity of any defence is huge. Thus, you are much better advised concentrating trying to get grip with one.

If you are having a rematch with someone and they beat you last time/or you just want to change the way game progresses then you change the variation you play within a given defence rather than the whole defence.

P.S That is the last bit of help you will get from me.

9thEagle

I'm a huge fan of the Veresov. Check out A Ferocious Opening Repertoire. It revolves around the moves 1.d4 and 2.Nc3 in response to any black opening. The mainlines are the sketchiest (still fun, but not "secure" or perhaps entirely sound) but if black tries to avoid the mainline he's essentially walked right into your "trap" because those "avoid the mainline" lines are terrific for white. You can basically play the same way against anything.

najdorf96

Hey. With all due respect, just pick an opening move...1. e4, d4, c4 and go from there.

Omega_Doom

I think it doesn't matter what opening you play. The most important thing is if you understand its ideas(more or less) and if it suits your personality. I used to play caro-kann but no matter how much i learned it i failed more than succeeded. Then i switched into sicilian and i'm happy with it because my pesonality likes dynamic play much more than solid one. And again i don't think that on your level(and on mine either) you need to worry much about systems. It's much better to improve our general skill and not to make silly blunders than mastering opening. It doesn't make sense if you are good at 10 moves and terrible at rest.

Goob63
repac3161 wrote:
Goob63 wrote:

And here come all the 'low rating' elitest/trolls. I want a system so I can stop looking at openings and opening theory, since I screwed my own development by looking way too much at it.

I have the french AND caro incase I rematch someone a few times,

'Low rating' elitest/trolls??? I thought I was offering you some helpful advice, and that the advice would carry some weight as I am a better player than you. But, instead you have just thrown it back in my face.

The reason you would only want 1 choice against e4 (at your level and mine) is that the complexity of any defence is huge. Thus, you are much better advised concentrating trying to get grip with one.

If you are having a rematch with someone and they beat you last time/or you just want to change the way game progresses then you change the variation you play within a given defence rather than the whole defence.

P.S That is the last bit of help you will get from me.

Wasnt directly referrencing your comment, but if you look at the string of comments just before and a few after yours, plus every thread I post or look at with someone below 1500 asking for help, theres always a jackass or two poking fun at a rating system. This was also the case on another forum site where I asked for a bit of help. So this thread took the brunt of my rant

Goob63
najdorf96 wrote:

Hey. With all due respect, just pick an opening move...1. e4, d4, c4 and go from there.

Ive ran with all those and had answers to whatever opening black picked. I just found myself focusing a little too much on it

PeteyPawnpusher

I think you just want attention. You're rated under 1000 w/ 300+ games played. You need to go back to basics; study ONE opening and get good at it no matter what Black does. 

PeteyPawnpusher

Reversed Sicilian; c4, e3, g3, fianchetto Bishop. Hypermodern, solid, I'd play it against anyone.

Goob63

No actually Im asking for help without shit like that

najdorf96

Heh. Indeed. If only life were as simple. But chess isn't as complicated as some people make it out to be.

I believe building one's Opening repertoire is an lifetime thing. Yeah, "mastering one system first" is always another's first response when someone asks...but it's not sheet advice.

"It's not possible to fill an cup already full (of crap)."

~confucious from some 90's movie.

I think you are suffering from too much information and less application/studying the results from it syndrome.

What you think you know today, is far removed from what you can learn tomorrow. It is a new day.

Clear your mind (empty your cup mayhaps metaphorically of course) and get your butt to work.

Just sayin.