Maroczy bind or switching to another variation of the Sicilian

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echecs06 wrote:

Ploucroux, Yaz Seirawan and John Donaldson taught me the accelerated dragon. They told me that the Maroczy bind is the price to pay to play the sicilian. If you want to avoid the bind they are good anti-Maroczy  Bellon variations against it. Bonne chance.

 
There is also a very good book by Hans Kmoch, "Pawn Power In Chess", that details the characterisitic pawn structure Maroczy Bind/Boleslavsky Wall.  In the book on pages 142-146 GM Kmoch gives insightful details on how to handle this pawn structure from both sides.  On page 143 he points out that, in 1959, according to the Russian analyst Symagin, the Maroczy has a dawback.  The drawback is now well known (the move c4 delays the development of White's pieces, of which Black can take advantage by getting in ...f5--the lever(break) for which there is otherwise very little chance.  He clarifies further that Symagin's system requires ...g6 and ...Nh6.
ploucroux

You do know Kmoch died like 40 years ago ? Theory has changed since then. Especially with the Nh6/f5 idea. It seems kinda busted now.

finalunpurez

How is it busted? Mind to show me?

ploucroux

Not busted per se, but as we discussed earlier in the topic it's not the best try for black. 

It's not technically "busted" white still has a good edge : 
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. c4 Bg7 6. Be3 Nh6 7. Be2 d6 8. Nc3 O-O 9. O-O f5 10. exf5 Bxd4 11. Bxh6 Rxf5 12. Bf3 for example. Black also has to play very precisely, as O-O instead of d6 seems to give white an even bigger edge. 

 

It's an intersting idea though. 

finalunpurez
ploucroux wrote:

Not busted per se, but as we discussed earlier in the topic it's not the best try for black. 

It's not technically "busted" white still has a good edge : 
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. c4 Bg7 6. Be3 Nh6 7. Be2 d6 8. Nc3 O-O 9. O-O f5 10. exf5 Bxd4 11. Bxh6 Rxf5 12. Bf3 for example. Black also has to play very precisely, as O-O instead of d6 seems to give white an even bigger edge. 

 

It's an intersting idea though. 

my houdini gives me an evulation of 0.17 after 12 ... Bxc3.  So white doesnt really have a edge. 

ploucroux

Ah well, maybe it's not so bad then. I'm still not sure it's an easy position to play though. White has got clear, easy, plans when black has a backward e-pawn and slightly uncoordinated pieces. 

finalunpurez

Agree. White is easier to play.