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SuirenBoid

I actually find the Owens an easy option for white, but you need to know your lines, once I found the Bd3, Qe2, Nf3 lines with e5, Ng5 vs d5 and d5 vs c5 I was very comfortable. A lot of unusual systems are designed to show up stereotypical play but a little work and you find them wanting IME

X_PLAYER_J_X
SuirenBoid wrote:

I actually find the Owens an easy option for white, but you need to know your lines, once I found the Bd3, Qe2, Nf3 lines with e5, Ng5 vs d5 and d5 vs c5 I was very comfortable. A lot of unusual systems are designed to show up stereotypical play but a little work and you find them wanting IME

Yeah I haven't found a set up I like against the Owens.

Which I have to admit is one of my main problems.

GreenLeaf14
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

The Openings which scare me are the very awkward ones which I see once in a blue moon.

I think I have a bad score against the Owens.

I think the main issue is I never put any effort into studying the Owens from the white side.

I often wing the opening and use opening principles.

Against well prepared Owens players I get crushed.

I think white can be ok after 2.d4 3.Bd3 4.Nf3 5.c3 or O-O, in guatemala's defence things may be a little different i guess

RoobieRoo
KevinLudwig wrote:

dutch. kings indian. I get tired of seeing Queens gambit declined, it's what I see most in my 5 minute games on chess.com.

play 1.e4 and I can assure you, you will see no more.

BigManArkhangelsk

Why is everyone afraid of the french? I just play:

 

 

 

(And yes I came up with this on my own)

 

 

X_PLAYER_J_X

At post #255

You didn't create that line.

The above position is called French Defense/Exchange Variation/Monte Carlo Variation

It is a playable line.

However, I think the Tarrasch, KIA, or mainline are better.

RookSacrifice_OLD
zinkelburger wrote:

Why is everyone afraid of the french? I just play:

 

 

 

 

(And yes I came up with this on my own)

 

 

That's a QGA 3. e3 down a move.

Firethorn15
RookSacrifice wrote:
zinkelburger wrote:

Why is everyone afraid of the french? I just play:

 

 

 

 

(And yes I came up with this on my own)

 

 

That's a QGA 3. e3 down a move.

This is a perfectly respectable opening (the Monte Carlo Variation). Not sure how you arrive at  this position from the QGA (how do you get a pawn on d5?)

RoobieRoo
Pulpofeira

Outstanding! Who won the caber toss?

RoobieRoo

It was no highland game you know. :P Biggest tosser in Scotland, Kaydoknight!

Pulpofeira

Wheeeeee!

Mrmath

e4 e5 Qh5 Ke7 :P

GreenLeaf14
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

but you cannot judge a responce to a defence by a 1800ish game...no offense,especially when black didn't make the right calls

RoobieRoo
GreenLeaf14 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

but you cannot judge a responce to a defence by a 1800ish game...no offense,especially when black didn't make the right calls

Black did make the right calls in the opening, he never lost the game in the opening, he lost it in the middle game.

electricpawn

Another way to eliminate poverty is to constantly redefine it. 

 

GreenLeaf14
robbie_1969 wrote:
GreenLeaf14 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

but you cannot judge a responce to a defence by a 1800ish game...no offense,especially when black didn't make the right calls

Black did make the right calls in the opening, he never lost the game in the opening, he lost it in the middle game.

nonetheless we are talking about an opening where black is up approx 0.3 from move 3 or 4...which is not what white should try to achieve and also,IMO black immaturely pushed b5 and didn't actually win sth from the move 10.Nf1 ehich places the knight well pretty much out of use,since there is no g3 to jump cause of the white fianchetto.

RoobieRoo
GreenLeaf14 wrote:

nonetheless we are talking about an opening where black is up approx 0.3 from move 3 or 4...which is not what white should try to achieve and also,IMO black immaturely pushed b5 and didn't actually win sth from the move 10.Nf1 ehich places the knight well pretty much out of use,since there is no g3 to jump cause of the white fianchetto.

Dude take your chess engine, throw it out of the window, run outside and jump up on down on it and make sure its dead, DO IT NOW! its feeding you with crazy ideas and making you slobber and drool.

You made a wrong assumption. You assumed that the opening was ineffective because the players were rated 1800.  Perhaps if you were not so self assuming you might do better?  Your chess engines evaluation of .3 of a pawn is meaningless.  Do you understand? absolutely meaningless and entirely typical of lazy chess players who think they can use chess engines to accurately evaluate chess positions.

'Gee I should only play this opening if my chess engine tells me its gives me an advantage of .8 of a pawn', GET A GRIP for goodness sake! seriously, the Internet is full of engine junkies all high on .5 of a pawn cause their engines tell them so.

My goodness here is a game played by none other than Peter Svidler as recently as last year where he reaches exactly the same position from the opening, Sigh if only he had known that his chess engine gives black a .3 of a pawn advantage he would have played something else, how he managed to win the game is unbelievable!


the move 10.Nf1 is played because the knight is coming to the Kingside via h2 and g4 after white plays h4, ask your chess engine, it will tell you.

GreenLeaf14
robbie_1969 wrote:
GreenLeaf14 wrote:

nonetheless we are talking about an opening where black is up approx 0.3 from move 3 or 4...which is not what white should try to achieve and also,IMO black immaturely pushed b5 and didn't actually win sth from the move 10.Nf1 ehich places the knight well pretty much out of use,since there is no g3 to jump cause of the white fianchetto.

Dude take your chess engine, throw it out of the window, run outside and jump up on down on it and make sure its dead, DO IT NOW! its feeding you with crazy ideas and making you slobber and drool.

You made a wrong assumption. You assumed that the opening was ineffective because the players were rated 1800.  Perhaps if you were not so self assuming you might do better?  Your chess engines evaluation of .3 of a pawn is meaningless.  Do you understand? absolutely meaningless and entirely typical of lazy chess players who think they can use chess engines to accurately evaluate chess positions.

'Gee I should only play this opening if my chess engine tells me its gives me an advantage of .8 of a pawn', GET A GRIP for goodness sake! seriously, the Internet is full of engine junkies all high on .5 of a pawn cause their engines tell them so.

My goodness here is a game played by none other than Peter Svidler as recently as last year where he reaches exactly the same position from the opening, Sigh if only he had known that his chess engine gives black a .3 of a pawn advantage he would have played something else, how he managed to win the game is unbelievable!

 


the move 10.Nf1 is played because the knight is coming to the Kingside via h2 and g4 after white plays h4, ask your chess engine, it will tell you.

whatever dude...if you know for fact this is a good line why do you get so cranked up to prove it? :P Chillax

RoobieRoo

Cranked up? Dude please, business is business, you know how it is.  Anyway, let me ask you something in sincerity, all joking aside.  How did you choose your opening repertiore?