New Line for Black vs 1. e4

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ponz111

As Black I am always delighted to see that line..Laughing

Trapper4

1...f5

MSC157

1...d6 is quite interesting (although it's not new). 

Pirc defence. I played it (as white) many many times with my friend. Quite interesting one!

jphillips

It still usually ends up being the same position whether you play Nc3 or f3 first, but you're right.

special_k_8
ponz111 wrote:

Here is the Blackmar Diemer Black usually runs into when he plays the

Scandinavian:
Yeah, I see. I play the BDG when I encouter the Scandinavian. I usually play 4. Bg5 line though.

 
special_k_8

I recently saw a game (Kingcrusher {Youtube Name} vs Nakamura) where KC opened with 1.b3?! An Owen's Defence with white. It isn't bad since most people don't know how to reply to it and it often transposes into some lines of The Bird. 

DarthMusashi

The moves 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ng8 is called the Brooklyn Defense. I believe
GM Joel Benjamin has played it in his games. Benjamin has also played
other strange openings such as the Snake Benoni.

The Brooklyn Defense of the Alekhines Defense was also discussed in
my Yahoo Unorthodox Chess Openings Newsgroup message section.

I used to play another line 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ne4 called the Mokele Mbembe
and I wrote an article on this in my Chessville column called "
The Search for Dragons and Mythical Chess Openings. This opening
was invented by IM Stefan Buecker of Germany a chess opening
theoretician who wrote about other openings such as the Vulture
and the Orthoschnapp Gambit. Buecker had a column at Chess Cafe
called Over the Horizons which examined various openings. He no
longer writes for Chess Cafe due to personal problems.

Best Regards
DarthMusashi

BirdsDaWord
special_k_8 wrote:

I recently saw a game (Kingcrusher {Youtube Name} vs Nakamura) where KC opened with 1.b3?! An Owen's Defence with white. It isn't bad since most people don't know how to reply to it and it often transposes into some lines of The Bird. 

1. b3 is totally sound.  It does not deserve a ?! at all, unless you think that White's play is compromised in some fashion.  Many great minds have used b3 in their White setups, such as Karpov and Larsen for instance.  If anything, it deserves this type of mark:

1. b3 (because it is a decent move)

1. b3!? (It is an interesting choice)

1. b3! (Psychologically against some opponents)

1. b3 is a move that packs a lot of poison into 1 pawn move.  

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

Ponz, I'm afraid it will take a Brit to catch your humor.  You are just having too much fun with this.  

ponz111

Zep, you are very perceptive!

BirdsDaWord

If this is humour... Tongue out

ponz111

Kinda meant as humor--Kramik could draw this or Kramik could win this.

But it also had some good playable ideas. I have actually played the Scandinavian as White with the dark and white squares reversed and so far am 3-0 with this system.

EternalChess
BlessedStar wrote:

post #1 houdini gives white +0.83

Only Carlsen and some others can keep up the 0.83 advantage, everyone else will 100% lose it somewhere in the opening.

ponz111

To me--.83 of an advantage means a win with best or even reasonable play.

ChessisGood

Your openings leave the opponent with superior positions. I would suggest trying to find novelties a few more moves down the road, as there is more uncharted territory.

The reverse Scandinavian is pointless, as it gives away White's advantage of going first. The Ng8 Alekhine, however, may simply be too slow.

pfren

The Ng8 Alekhine is fine for fast time controls, where positional ideas precede concrete variations. Objectively of course white does have a more-than-slight advantage after 3.d4 d5 (3...d6 is rather pointless: if Black wanted to chip white's center in the traditional way, then he'd rather not retreat his horse to g8) 4.c4! e6 (4...c5 is a Caro Kann advance with white a whole tempo up, which isn't a good thing) 5.Nc3 Ne7 6.Nf3 Nf5 (this is to force white clarify the center) 7.cd5 ed5 8.Qb3! (invoking a pawn on c6) 8...c6 9.Bd3, when white's advantage is not in doubt, but black's position is playable.

IMO this is white's best line, resulting to a moderate advantage- but white OTB can achieve much less than that.

u335394862

Guys if you dont agree, its ok but i made up an opening that just might work 1.d4,d5 2.f3,Nc6 3.e4,nf6 4.e5,Nd7 its called the Quanksterz Opening Advanced variation there are more variations i will tell you soon

special_k_8
BirdBrain wrote:
special_k_8 wrote:

I recently saw a game (Kingcrusher {Youtube Name} vs Nakamura) where KC opened with 1.b3?! An Owen's Defence with white. It isn't bad since most people don't know how to reply to it and it often transposes into some lines of The Bird. 

1. b3 is totally sound.  It does not deserve a ?! at all, unless you think that White's play is compromised in some fashion.  Many great minds have used b3 in their White setups, such as Karpov and Larsen for instance.  If anything, it deserves this type of mark:

1. b3 (because it is a decent move)

1. b3!? (It is an interesting choice)

1. b3! (Psychologically against some opponents)

1. b3 is a move that packs a lot of poison into 1 pawn move.  

Ah, I didn't Kasparov used it :O That's awesome! I've had someone play it against me and it wasn't too much fun :S Had trouble developing normally... Or maybe I'm just retarted.

pfren
melvinbluestone wrote:

@pfren: Another try for black with this dubious idea is: 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ng8 3.d4 d5 4.c4 c6 5.Nc3 Bf5!? 6.g4 Bg6 7.Bg2 e6. Maybe black can hang on.....

Why should white play 6.g4? Either 6.Qb3, or the consistent 6.Nge2(!) are surely better tries.

BlessedStar

This is a rubbish opening but i'll post the line I play in friendly gamesLaughing