nimzo indian defense not played correct

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djd123

How to play if nimzo indian doesn't go as planned?

For example a game like this, blacks move.

Alexm421

This position is not a nimzo indian it is a French defence.

TensionHeadache

1...e6 is a great move order if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a French, and loathe a Trompowsky.

1...Nf6 if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a Tromp, and prefer something other than a French vs. 1.e4.

Alexm421

TensionHeadache if you play nf6 won't white play e5.

1...e6 is a great move order if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a French, and loathe a Trompowsky.

1...Nf6 if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a Tromp, and prefer something other than a French vs. 1.e4.

restinpeace

go with 2.d5 (french transpose) follow by either 3.nf6 or 3.c5. easy as continuation there bro, the funny thing with nimzo is that you can transpose that to french if the plan didn't go as expected and vice versa. french for me is kinda solid repertoire for black if played correctly otherwise, it would be fast as a downhill lost for you. 

goodluck!

Swindlers_List

OPs problem is clearly this:

1.d4 e6 - OP believes after 2.c4 he will be heading towards a nimzo inidna

However, white plays 2.e4 transposing to a french defense.

This OP, is why 1..Nf6 is first played before e6, to prevent white from gaining control of the e4 square.

Infact, most of the nimzo indians strategy revolves around this sole point of forcing white to make concessions if they want to get e4 (if they do at all).

If you need the very first move of an opning explained, id suggest you read up on basic opening principles first.

ThrillerFan
alexmoore421 wrote:

TensionHeadache if you play nf6 won't white play e5.

1...e6 is a great move order if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a French, and loathe a Trompowsky.

1...Nf6 if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a Tromp, and prefer something other than a French vs. 1.e4.


What he's saying is if you don't play the French against 1.e4 (i.e. 1.e4 e6 2.d4), then don't play 1...e6 to get to the Nimzo-Indian.  Play 1...Nf6.

He is NOT saying to play ...Nf6 from the position in the OP.

Players that play the Nimzo-Indian as Black and don't play the French against 1.e4 as Black should play it as follows:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4

NimzoRoy

Players that play the Nimzo-Indian as Black and don't play the French against 1.e4 as Black should play it as follows:  1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4  ThrillerFan

This sounds like a good idea although not necessarily for everyone - IMHO the FD Winawer main lines lead to positions more closed than a lot of NID lines. I play both openings myself although I play the NID more often vs 1.d4 than the FD vs. 1.e4 partly because I think the NID is easier to play (usually) for Black - or for me at least.

ThrillerFan

NimzoRoy, I never said that you "can't" or "shouldn't" play 1...Nf6 if you are also a French player.  There is nothing wrong with that.  You are interpreting the message backwards.

The OP played 1...e6.  What I'm saying is, if you specifically do not play the French defense, then you need to play 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 and NOT 1.d4 e6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Bb4 because of the risk of facing the French Defense with 2.e4.

If you play both the French and Nimzo-Indian, you actually have two options.

NimzoRoy

OK and overall I like your idea of playing NID vs 1.d4 and FD Winawer vs. 1.e4

BTW did I claim you said  you "can't" or "shouldn't" play 1...Nf6 if you are also a French player? If so I didn't mean to. 

DrSpudnik
TensionHeadache wrote:

1...e6 is a great move order if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a French, and loathe a Trompowsky.

1...Nf6 if you play a Nimzo, don't mind a Tromp, and prefer something other than a French vs. 1.e4.

And that's why I play e6 to d4. Laughing

ThrillerFan

I avoid both.  I play 1...g6 or 1...d6 as Black (against the 4 main White first moves that is), though I did play the French for about 10 years, and the Nimzo for maybe a year or two.