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MonkeyH

Hello everyone, I was wondering if there are some less theoretical ways to combat the sicilian defense? I'm not interested in learning deep theoretical lines but a simple system that has some bite in it still.

OTB against Sicilian I like to play a 2.d3 system (followed by Nd2, f4, g3, Bg2 etc.) following a Foxy Chess DVD but I don't know if it's any good still. This is the setup I aim to achieve in this system:

 

scottpixley

my friend this looks great but in a real game it is impossible white has 7 moves to blacks one each player makes a move each for this position, to happen white has cheated 7 to 1 moves lol made an error 

burnt_end

This is how:

1.e4 c5 2.d3 Nc6 3. f4 Nb8 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Nce2 Nb8 6.g3 Nc6 7.Bg2 Nb8 8.0-0

However with deep analysis, I imagine slight improvements might be found in Black's play.

scottpixley

I am sorry but No those moves never happened and the way the board is set. They never did and can't. If the (BN) came out and white attacked it chase the (BN) around the board a while then got the knight to go back to g8 maybe. But there is no pawn on e5 to attack Nf6 lol

scottpixley

The knights went out on a date danced around the board white decided to break up the party the knights went home and it is the case of MidKnight round-up  lol lol lol lol

poucin

This is called "the big clamp".

Fedorov tried it against Kasparov who crushed him, in a model way for black.

Here is the game commented (slightly) by Luke Mcshane on chessbase :

Don't despair, this system is respectable, some strong GM plays it sometimes, like Morozevitch and specially Movsesian...

But u have to understand some KID positions...

MonkeyH

Dear IM Pouchin, thanks a lot! Exactly what I was looking for... Now I'm going to study KID and KIA positions as well..

One question though, the KIA has a bad reputation against the Sicilian but this clamp system doesn't. Meanwhile it looks almost similar (KIA probably doesn't play f4 before Nf3), what's the difference?

Some links for the big clamp if other people are interested:

http://www.chesspublishing.com/content/5/sep10.htm

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1020360

And off course there is the foxy chess 49: Strangling the sicilian with the same system (:

ThrillerFan
MonkeyH wrote:

Dear IM Pouchin, thanks a lot! Exactly what I was looking for... Now I'm going to study KID and KIA positions as well..

One question though, the KIA has a bad reputation against the Sicilian but this clamp system doesn't. Meanwhile it looks almost similar (KIA probably doesn't play f4 before Nf3), what's the difference?

Some links for the big clamp if other people are interested:

http://www.chesspublishing.com/content/5/sep10.htm

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1020360

And off course there is the foxy chess 49: Strangling the sicilian with the same system (:

Some view the KIA as inferior because people try to play it as an automatic attack against the Sicilian.

It really is only good against Sicilians with ...e6.  For example, 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d3 is stronger than 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d3 (White has nothing here).

Black's LSB must be blocked for the KIA to be worth anything.  After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6, Black might be able to play ...d6 and ...e5 at some point, but he lost a tempo doing it compared to 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d3?! where e7-e5 can be played in 1 move!

 

What many people do play is the Moscow against 2...d6, Rossolimo against 2...Nc6, and King's Indian Attack against 2...e6 after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3, and you've avoided the highly theoretical Open Sicilian.

Xbiker

Another way, according to Jhon Emm`s Book, Attacking with e4, is the closed sicilian 2.Nc3, 3.G3, is his recommedation for people who does not want to enter into long theoretical lines, as a pedegree opening, easy to play and memorize, and not so usual as the main lines. He says that even if black plays the best moves is will be hard for them,

Thouhg I have to say that this plan also looks very atractive as an antisicilian plan

What many people do play is the Moscow against 2...d6, Rossolimo against 2...Nc6, and King's Indian Attack against 2...e6 after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3, and you've avoided the highly theoretical Open Sicilian.