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ArcherIrving wrote:
Caesar49bc wrote:
The last move, Nf3 is paramount to being able to survive the opening.

 

Caesar49bc...

I am no openings specialist. I regularly mess up the opening. (For example... this) but your characterization of 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c5 3. dxc5 d4 4. Nf3 as crucial to White surviving is a bit dramatic. Your setup is still in White's favour such as 4. ... Nc6 5. e3 e5 6. exd4 exd4. Even if you lose your extra pawn, you have isolated Black's d-pawn, and can treat it like an IQP position where neither side is really developed. Verdict... setup still good!

Nf3 is what chess engines like. I been crushed with most of my other replies. Not crushed in the opening per se, but certainly never getting a chance to switch to offense or even getting an even game. 🙁

 

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Caesar49bc escribió:
e5IsForRealMan wrote:
Caesar49bc escribió:

I have sort of  a standard opening for white I play a lot. It's only a general setup, so you have to play it for a while to get a feel for it. I know I should expand my white openings, but it's hard to resist when I'm just wanting a quick internet game.

I've posted about this position before, so it comes with the disclaimer that I don't force myself to use the position in every game, but with minor tweaks to the position, it's pretty strong overall against lower rated players.

Against players USCF 1700 or higher, it's less effective,  but still playable. Against USCF 1800+, the games can quickly devolve into tactical mess that's far too muddled to say who has the advantage, all else being equal.

Over 1900 USCF, and most likely the opponent has too much opening knowledge for my setup to be much of a challenge, unless your playing an exact opening line that happens to use my formation.

 

I didn't show black moves, other than d5, because I wanted to focus on white's setup. The overall goal is to dominate the "C" file with the rook. Black can prevent that if he wants, so I didn't go that far, but it's pretty hard for black to prevent at least as much of the setup I'm showing as long as he's mostly just trying to develop in the opening and not being too aggressive on the king side of the board.

There is one dangerous line that black can play against it.

The last move, Nf3 is paramount to being able to survive the opening.

 

I actually play the Austrian defence against 1.d4, why would the Salvio countergambit be such a problem? It certainly won't allow your setup but white is not in danger if he doesn't hold on too much to the extra pawn.

Also, I prefer 3.e3 instead of 3.d4.

It's not a problem to play that opening as long as you know how. Otherwise there are videos on the internet showing how black can severely punish white for lack of knowlege. 

I have no idea how you can play 3.d3 when white's first move is 1.d4.

Then just learn how to play against it. I meant 3.e6 lol

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Lol. In any event, its just one line I play with 1.d4 that  can trip up people. Most other lines againt 1.d4 d5  don't allow black to go straight into offense so fast.

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RussBell skrev:

Chess Openings Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/openings-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

 

Great! Thanks!

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The Qd8 Scandinavian does seem a good suggestion for Black against 1.e4. Not so easy to find an equivalent against 1.d4 - perhaps the QGA or Slav? I wonder if Christof Sielecki has any plans for a Keep it Simple Black repertoire? I'd buy it.

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Ty again! Please post more of what you play!

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FrogCDE wrote:

The Qd8 Scandinavian does seem a good suggestion for Black against 1.e4. Not so easy to find an equivalent against 1.d4 - perhaps the QGA or Slav? I wonder if Christof Sielecki has any plans for a Keep it Simple Black repertoire? I'd buy it.

I was recently thinking EXACTLY the same thing....i.e., a Christof Sielecki "Keep It Simple (KIS)" repertoire for Black, would, I think, be good - (see his Black repertoire against 1.d4 (on Chessable) based on the Benko Gambit, which I reference in my post immediately below). 

I have Seilecki's recent KIS 1.e4 repertoire book, which I think is good opening repertoire to start out with, relatively easy for the chess amateur to digest, and very playable.... and I have ordered his companion KIS 1.d4 repertoire book.   Both books/courses are also now available on Chessable....

https://www.chessable.com/keep-it-simple-1e4/course/10179/

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9068.pdf

https://www.chessable.com/keep-it-simple-1-d4/course/23396/

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The following is one of my favorite repertoires as Black against White's 1.d4.....

A Benko/Blumenfeld/Vaganian Gambits repertoire against 1.d4.....the books below form the basis for a complete gambit repertoire against 1.d4....a fun repertoire, and very playable...one which will have your opponents scratching their heads...

1.Attack With Black by Valery Aveskulov....a complete repertoire against 1.d4 based on the Benko/Blumenfeld/Vaganian Gambits....a very thorough treatment.....this is one of my favorite opening repertoire books.....the operative word here is ATTACK!

https://www.amazon.com/Attack-Black-Valery-Aveskulov/dp/1906454396/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Attack+with+Black&qid=1570489939&s=books&sr=1-1

http://gambitbooks.com/books/Attack_with_Black.html

http://gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Attack_with_Black.pdf

2. The Alterman Gambit Guide: Black Gambits 1 by Boris Alterman.....covers the Benko, Blumenfeld & Vaganian Gambits and several other gambits for Black.....a well-presented, instructive book and the perfect supplement to Aveskulov's book above....fun stuff.......

http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Black-Gambits-1-exceprt.pdf

3. The Benko Gambit Revealed by Neil McDonald....a very instructive introduction to the Benko Gambit....GM McDonald is one of the better chess book authors...

https://www.amazon.com/Benko-Gambit-Revealed-Neil-McDonald/dp/0713488689/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+benko+gambit+revealed&qid=1570491591&s=books&sr=1-1

4. Chessexplained's Benko Repertoire: A complete answer to 1.d4 by Christof Sielecki.  A complete repertoire for Black against 1.d4 featuring the Benko Gambit (on Chessable).  Note that Sielecki is the author of the new "Keep It Simple" opening repertoire books, also available on Chessable...

https://www.chessable.com/chessexplaineds-benko-repertoire-a-complete-answer-to-1d4/course/3258/

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 The book The Tarrasch Defense move by move by IM Sam Collins.

 

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For an opening repertoire for White based on 1.e4 e5, which can be played aggressively or positionally, and anywhere in between, I recommend the The Italian Game (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4)...

Start out with Vincent Moret's excellent, instructive opening repertoire book for White based on 1.e4, and featuring the Italian Game...

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White by Vincent Moret....

be sure to check my Amazon book review (as RLBell)....here...

https://www.amazon.com/First-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-White/dp/9056916335/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5NCDHSD4KFLU&keywords=my+first+chess+opening+repertoire+for+white&qid=1570495638&sprefix=my+first+chess+open%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-1

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f41ZbPq9OpE

https://www.chessable.com/my-first-chess-opening-repertoire-for-white/course/7543/

Having absorbed the lessons in Moret's Italian Game repertoire, you may decide at some point to consider the so-called "Modern" (aka "Slow") variation of the Italian Game (with 4.c3 / 5.d3)....

Winning With The Slow But Venomous Italian by Karsten Muller & Georgios Souleidis....

https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Venomous-Italian-Easy-Grasp/dp/9056916742/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=winning+with+the+slow+but+venomous+italian&qid=1570495784&s=books&sr=1-1

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9037.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szr8mNLKtPg

As a supplement to the books above, I suggest...

"Beating 1e4 e5: A Repertoire For White In The Open Games" by John Emms.  It is focused on the Modern/Slow variation (4.c3 / 5.d3) of the Italian Game....

https://www.amazon.com/Beating-1e4-e5-Repertoire-White/dp/1857446178/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=beating+1e4+e5&qid=1570522111&s=books&sr=1-1

Be sure also to check out the following very instructive, introductory videos on the Italian Game on YouTube...

Italian Game intro series on 'Hanging Pawns' channel....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4qtaUAhWM&list=PLssNbVBYrGcDtaEsaYMUyiAmK64nd4A5H

Italian Game intro series on 'Jim's Chess Channel'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gX4to7ly1Y&list=PLPaM3qJ0ieXucrVfyj-v9iuiVGJMrPYE1&index=11

You can play the Italian Game for the rest of your life, at all levels of chess.  It will stand the test of time...

 

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Thanks for the links!

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Finally, something here might spark an interest...

Good Chess Openings Books For Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/good-chess-openings-books-for-beginners-and-beyond

A brief review of Vincent Moret's "My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White" is included.

Note I have not yet incorporated Christof Sielecki's two (recent) "Keep It Simple" opening repertoire books into the list above.  But I plan to do so.

Lots more good stuff...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell

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Thanks once again