Problems with 1. d4

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PhDP

I would like to have some suggestions...

My record against 1. d4 is not that great, to say the least. The only thing I know is that I like to start with 1...e6, hoping to get into a French, which is not even my main weapon against 1. e4 (I prefer the Caro-Kann), but it's still better than what I could do against d4/c4.

The only opening I really like is the Queen's Indian, it's the kind of solid opening I enjoy but it doesn't always work, and the Nimzo is just not for me...

Any suggestions ?

asampedas

Well, I've never liked queen pawn games, because I somehow lose the center to my opponent very easily.

To king pawn openings, what better defence could there be than the renowned Sicilian? It provides sharp attacks and great fight for the center.

The French sounds interesting, and I would like to try it. However, I'm too used to the Sicilian, that in any new game, I just instinctly move 1...c5 to a king pawn game!

mirkogogic

If u like Caro-Kann u can play c6 , and most of oponents will play e4 and then u play d5 u get Caro-Kann

here are 2 ideas that i play

1. solution

d4 c6

e5 d5

 

2. solution ( if oponent dont play c4 )

d4 d5

Nf3 c5

PhDP

But if I'm stuck with 1. d4 c6 1.c4 ?

...If I'm right, I have to go into some sort of Slav, which is a very common, very theoretical line. 

Streptomicin
RainbowRising wrote:

If you know the caro you should find the slav and semi slav very easy to adjust to.


+1

Cymantex

Wow, you actally has the same opening taste as me. ^^

I love both the caro-kann,(the main line and the advanced variation)(panov is a pain) queen's indian and the french defence. Nimzo-indian is an opening I really don't either.

I would suggest using the french moveorder to reach and opening called the english defence. The english defence is an opening very similiar to the queen's indian and the only thing black needs to proove is that white can't take over the center with e4 if black is able to do this then the game will just simply transpose into the queen's indian. I should also point out that black doesn't even need to tranpose into the queen's indian if he wants, black has many other good options available.

The english defence is very underrestimated and therefore theres almost no theory on this opening. This gives a large space to improve and find new ideas (I have found several new TN's already) and because the positions can get really tactical if white tries to grap the center with e4 knowing theory gives you a really large advantage over your unprepared opponent.

Some of blacks ideas:

CarlMI

What do you mean when you say the QID doesn't work?  You lose? or you don't win?  What is you expectation for Black?  What are you looking for?  The answer to those questions will better guide your search for an opening.  The obvious twin to the Caro is the Slav (1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 and omit e6) avoiding the mess of the many Semi Slavs.  There are no non-theoretical lines against 1. d4 that are worth playing.

If you like e6 positions you might want to look at various QGD (1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6) lines. 

Check out this article:

http://www.chess.com/article/view/options-for-black-vs-1d4

ericmittens

If you want to play 1.d4 e6 then don't forget about the Stonewall Dutch!

marvellosity
CarlMI wrote:

What do you mean when you say the QID doesn't work?  You lose? or you don't win?  What is you expectation for Black? 


Indeed. QID is one of the most solid and dependable openings for Black. If you like it, study it - it's not really 'bustable'.

MRO314

If you want a solid opening you could try the Benoni

marvellosity

Who ever said the Benoni was a particularly solid opening? It's complex and unbalanced.

Biarien

If you say the Nimzo-Indian is not for you, I'm not sure why you would think the QID is any better. The style is very similar (in the sense of controlling e4 remotely, etc.), and they are generally seen as a pair of opening systems depending on whether white plays 3. Nf3 or 3. Nc3.

There are a lot of very good responses to the Queen's Gambit. It really just comes down to your personal preferences. The Semi-Slav is a very good option, and somewhat similar to the Caro-Kann in structure, though the resulting play will of course be different.  The Nimzo-Indian/Queen's Indian system is very good. The Grunfeld and King's Indian are good as well, and of course the Slav and QGD are solid choices. The Benoni/Benko system is also good, though (perhaps) a bit more risky.

I would first decide whether you enjoy playing more 'classically' or in a more 'hypermodern' fashion. If you like the Caro-Kann but don't enjoy the Nimzo-Indian or Queen's Indian, I would say you prefer a 'classical' style of play, and should stick with the QGD, Slav, Semi-Slav, or even the Queen's Gambit Accepted.

Hope this is at least a little bit helpful.

Archerknight

You don't like the Nimzo?Surprised

Try the slav if you like the caro-kann

 

Or Tarrasch

Or this opening that I have no idea of its name.

Or the simple Kings indian.
Biarien

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e5 is the Albin Countergambit.  Also, I don't know that the King's Indian can really be called 'simple.' 

TinLogician

Stick with the QID and investigate the Dutch Stonewall.  You can play 1.. e6 and vary which defence you play depending on response, mood, etc.  I say if you like an opening, stick with it for a while.  If you decide you don't like it later, fine, just move on.  If you put some time into it though, you may discover that you want to keep it throughout your chess career.

jpd303

stick with the slav, im a 1.d4 player and i have the hardest time against the slav, grunfeld, and nimzo/QID defenses

CarlMI

The Benoni has never been considered solid; fighting, unbalanced, dangerous but not solid.  Having said that: 1. d4 c5 2. d5 d6 3. c4 is not a normal Benoni.  It is still probably ECO A43 but I'd call it a weird Benoni.  Looks like something from the footnotes but really White should have played 3. e4...

 

The question though, is what do you want to do as Black.  There are numerous good defenses and we can toss out favorites as is normally done in these help me beat d4 threads if that is all you're looking for.

bigmac30

play the benko the benoni you have to know what you are doing the thing you have to remember is don't hurry to get your pawn back the white player is busted or having big thinks no time at all if white prevents ut there is always somthing bad about the way they gone about it

CarlMI

If White doesn't know what he is doing he will have troubles with any opening, not just the Benko.  I would not base my opening choice on the hope that White doesn't know what he is doing.  The Benko is no better or worse than any of the other main lines.  If it was that good it wouldn't be so infrequently played.

eaglex

queens gambit declined is very similar idea to caro kann imo