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Rat Defense: English Rat (A41)

Wow, I just discovered an interesting new opening whose statistics leave me speechless. The Rat Defense involves the moves 1. c4 d6 2. d4 e5. Now, most people would think that white should easily win this, but, according to the Game Explorer, black has the higher winning chances:

http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/A41_Rat_Defense_English_Rat

Nevertheless, haven't we all been taught that trading queens is good for the one who captures? Well then, why is this so popular? If  anyone can tell me the theory, I would be glad to hear it. Thanks!

CalbaMan

I, honestly, did not know that there was such an opening as this. 

Krames

This is a great example of the "depth" of chess. I've seen this before and read up on the opening a bit . . . It just boggles my mind that with everything I know about chess (which I understand isn't all that much) that black could POSSIBLY be winning here . . .

 

Best,

Ted

bastiaan

The only thing I'd come up with is a "slower" white bishop for white, and black's e5 pawn looks nice there. However, white can still castle and didn't lose a tempo, I'd prefer to be white

mcshadowj

I played this position without seeing the queen exchange, but it suited my taste for static games. I won in a rook and pawns versus knight and pawns endgame. It works because dxe5 starts releasing the development pressure.

Yigor

3. e3 and the most popular 3. Nf3 are better than the exchange variation 3. dxe5. explorer.png

English Rat RoFL that's a funny name. grin.png

mcshadowj

That does make sense with the tense buildup. In those games, did the exchange ever happen, Yigor?

Yigor
McShadowJHG wrote:

That does make sense with the tense buildup. In those games, did the exchange ever happen, Yigor?

 

Yeah, according to the local Explorer, the exchange happens quite often.

mcshadowj

Why did that happen after a few moves of preparation? And how do you show what another person said?(Unrelated)

Yigor
McShadowJHG wrote:

Why did that happen after a few moves of preparation? And how do you show what another person said?(Unrelated)

 

The exchange can happen as early as the 2nd move (cf. the Scandinavian defense 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5, for example).

 

N.B. U can use the quote sign " in the upper right corner of someone's message in order to answer it.

joecent

All my opponents that use the Rat Defence loses their game. How come? I do not think Rat Defence is solid.

pinkblueecho

The English Rat Defense is a great opening as it activates the King at an early opportunity. Remember Hans von Waiblingen´s classic text Kritik der klassischen Eröffnungstheorie? It goes without saying that everyone here knows his immortal words: "Einen entscheidenden Vorteil kann nur durch die Entwicklung des Königs erlangt werden!".

The following bullet game was played with this maxim in mind. It was played by two patzers who have never even heard of the opening:

 

Capn_Haddock

Blacks inability to castle could cause him some problems later. Just because the Queens are off doesn't mean the board is safe for him

pawnsacrifice101

Black is better

iaizz2020
pinkblueecho wrote:

The English Rat Defense is a great opening as it activates the King at an early opportunity. Remember Hans von Waiblingen´s classic text Kritik der klassischen Eröffnungstheorie? It goes without saying that everyone here knows his immortal words: "Einen entscheidenden Vorteil kann nur durch die Entwicklung des Königs erlangt werden!".

The following bullet game was played with this maxim in mind. It was played by two patzers who have never even heard of the opening:

 

 

this is not the most accurate game ever

pinkblueecho
HDiChess hat geschrieben:
pinkblueecho wrote:

The English Rat Defense is a great opening as it activates the King at an early opportunity. Remember Hans von Waiblingen´s classic text Kritik der klassischen Eröffnungstheorie? It goes without saying that everyone here knows his immortal words: "Einen entscheidenden Vorteil kann nur durch die Entwicklung des Königs erlangt werden!".

The following bullet game was played with this maxim in mind. It was played by two patzers who have never even heard of the opening:

 

 

this is not the most accurate game ever

 

Agreed. 96.7% accuracy for a 1 minute bullet is game is terrible.