Repertoire for 1.d4 player

Hello friends..I am starting 1.d4 for white..Can you please suggest a good repertoire for white?

The first problem I am getting is against the dutch.I started 2.Nc3 with idea of e4 when Black plays 1...f5 but this repertoire is not complete as Black also plays dutch stonewall with 1...e6

If you want action, prepare the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit. And if you want to surprise your opponent starting from move 2, learn 1.d4 Nf6 2.g4!

What is this called, and how does it continue?

i second Ultraman81.....Blackmar-Diemer Gambit! its heart pounding crazy!! black has to match white's aggressiveness and play very acurately or get steamrolled. 

koravi,

Don't listen to the fools that have responded thus far.  The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit is not very good, borderline unsound.  It's 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3, similar to what is known as the Hubsch Gambit, which is 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.e4 Nxe4 4.Nxe4 dxe4 5.f3.

First off, the Former can be answered with the Euwe Variation (5...e6) and if Black knows what he's doing, he gets an excellent game.  Secondly, Black is under no obligation to accept.  I've seen 5...e3 before, but not sure how good that is.

The Bronstein gambit (1.d4 Nf6 2.g4) is also garbage.  Play continues 2...Nxg4 3.e4 d6 4.Be2 (4.Nc3? e5! Advantage Black) Nf6 5.Nc3 and White has no advantage at all.

If you are looking to play 1.d4, I'd suggest the following:

1...d5 - Play 2.c4, known as the Queen's Gambit.  You need to study various lines, and see what you like against each of the following:

   2...dxc4 - The Queen's Gambit Accepted, 3.Nf3 (best), 3.e4, and 3.e3 are options

   2...e6 - The Queen's Gambit Declined, 3.Nc3 Nf6 and now 4.cxd5 or 4.Bg5

   2...c6 - The Slav Defense, against which White has a number of options.  Study them and see which you like best.

1...Nf6 - Play 2.c4, and have a line against the King's Indian, Nimzo-Indian, Benoni, Benko, Old Indian, Grunfeld, etc.

1...f5 - This is the Dutch Defense, and the last of the 3 options that prevents e4 by White.  Play a positional game, fianchettoing the Kingside, and don't be in a hurry to play e4.  Black has the advantage in most lines where both sides are racing after the King.  White has to be patient, play a positional game, and use the weakening of the Black King to his advantage!

This is my 1.d4 repertoire at its most basic...use it if you want to play for an edge in the soundest/most aggressive manner(in my opinion anyway, take it or leave it):

-QGA-3.e4

-QGD- 3.Nc3, exchange with Bg5 when possible

-Slav-6.Ne5

-SemiSlav-5.Bg5, Bh4 moscow

-Schlecter-Exchange w/ Bf4

-Chameleon-5.a4

-Grunfeld-8 Rb1

-KID- 5.h3 6.Bg5 system(I call it the Aronian variation lol, he hasn't played it in a couple months though)  

-Dutch-2Bg5

-Benoni- either h3 systems or the flick knife if your opponent allows it

-Benko- Fully accepted with g3

-Nimzo -f3

-Budapest -4.Bf4 if you want to try and refute(learn your lines), if not then 4.Nh3 

-Against old indian goofiness-2.Nf3 and wait until black commits to a variation

I think this is an ambitious repertoire for a 1.d4 player that is solid for tournament play(or lifetime even) and not cowardly like that London/Colle junk(half joking, half serious  )  

Blackmar-Dietmar gambit?,

d4 d5 e4 e6. French defence. Hooray

"1...f5 - This is the Dutch Defense, and the last of the 3 options that prevents e4 by White.  Play a positional game, fianchettoing the Kingside, and don't be in a hurry to play e4.  Black has the advantage in most lines where both sides are racing after the King.  White has to be patient, play a positional game, and use the weakening of the Black King to his advantage!"

I agree with everything you said above apart from this.  I agree with it some of the way but not 100%.  Where I'd personally disagree is this particular line:

2...d6?! 3 Nc3! -->

Some quick comments:

1) I agree with ThrillerFan that the variations I proposed are "dubious". But they are a lot of fun, and on my leven they work just fine. 
2) 1.d4 Nf6 g4 is the Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit. Check my blogs (GWG1 and GWG2) if you want to see some of my games. Check the blogs of BigGStikman if you want to see similar but on a higher level. 
3) If my Blackmar-Diemer Gambits get denied by a French Defence (so if they are to scared to accept the offered advantage), I play 3.Be3 being the Alapin-Diemer Gambit. I've had mixed results, but few French players are prepared for it. 

The problem with such gambits is that they may get you quick and exciting wins on occassion...but they're fundamentally unsound and will stall your chess development. I whole-heartedly agree with the people recommending d4/c4 mainlines.

play something serious and classical! For examples like this:

1.d4

a)1... d5, 2.c4 the queensgambit, one of the most solid and best openings I know

-as a surprise weapon you can prepare Bf4 which has some interesting ideas

b)1...Nf6 2.C4

b1)2... g6, 3. Nc3 Bg7( 3...d5,4. cxd5 Nxd5, 5. e4 Nxc3, 6.bxc3 Bg7, 7. Bg5!? c5, Rc1 and black candidate easily end up being worse) 4.e4 d6, 5.Nf3 0-0, 6.Be2 e5, 7.0-0 Nc6, 8. Re1 with chances for both sides, but white has it definetely easier to develop

b2)2... e6, 3. Nf3 to avoid the Nimzoindian. Thats a good idea, especially against stronger opponents. Now black can transpose into the queensgambit or play the queensindian.

-as a secret weapon I would chose the trompovsky which is a really dangerous opening

That were just some basic lines and an idea of a classical d4 repertoire. I also play it this way.

Cheers

Hubsch Gambit.....mmmmmmmm....sounds yummy :p have to check that one out sometime.

first off...queen's gambit...not technically a gambit...or so i read somewhere....

secondly...i think i have had above average success (uhmm...75%???) with the blackmar-diemer...although im not sure if that prooves anything about me or the gambit...

thirdly...i agree gambits are dubious, exciting and, and fun :) but its not all fun...from my experience (with gambits ingeneral), to make up for the natural unsoundness of gambit openings, you'll have to learn how to develop quickly and efficiently, get a good grip of opening theories and middle game tactics, and attack unceasingly. a sound gambit (well...a 'relatively' sound one) can teach you all these nice things.

i'm obviously biased, but in my opinion, gambits wont necessarily stall your development, they're just a different path towarrds mastery.  

but that's neither here nor there...if a gambit's style of play does not suit you, then maybe its just not for you, and thats not a bad thing at all.  but if all this gambit talk has piqued your interest.... :)

The London is a quick fix if you need a solid 1.d4 repertoire fast. It is not difficult for Black to equalize though, especially through the 1.d4 d5 move order.

Later you can learn the 5.Bf4 Queen's Gambit Declined for something more ambitious. The traditional Exchange QGD and Orthodox (4.Bg5) are also very good choices.

Other systems after 1.d4 d5:

The Slow Slav (2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3) and 3.e3 Queen's Gambit Accepted are good solid options that do not require a huge amount of memorization and are used by top GMs. The Meran or anti-Meran against the Semi-Slav are reliable options with varying degrees of sharpness depending on preference. The Slow Slav move order also allows 5.Nbd2 which is a good positional system against the Semi-Slav.

Against 1...Nf6, there are a few systems that don't require a lot of memorization, but have good chances to play for a long-term strategic advantage:

Nimzo-Indian: Rubinstein System (4.e3)

or depending on move order,

Queen's Indian: Petrosian System (4.a3)

King's Indian: Saemisch or Averbakh

Gruenfeld: 4.e3 Bg7 5.Qb3 (quiet, but insidious: see Finegold's lecture) or Russian System (more theoretical and ambitious, but probably takes less time to learn than some of the mainline exchange variations)

Against the Dutch (1...f5), I've been successful with 2.Bg5 and 2.Nc3 (usually followed by Bg5). You don't have to rush with e4 too soon. I vary my approach depending on Black's response. For instance, if Black plays an early ...g6, I usually respond with h4. The Staunton Gambit with e4 is okay, but I think these positional anti-Dutch systems are more challenging.

Against the move order, 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.Nc3 Nf6, a couple of good choices are:

1) 4.Nf3 Bb4 5.Qb3 and 4...d5 5.Bf4! is a suboptimal Stonewall that is very pleasant for White.

2) 4.e3 Bb4 5.Qc2 is recommended by Kornev and White plans Bd3 and Nge2. This consistent with the Rubinstein approach against the Nimzo-Indian. Against 4...d5, Bd3 followed by Nge2 is an interesting approach to neutralize the Stonewall. White is free to play f3 and can sometimes break with e4.

These are solid systems that do not take a long time to learn and are good practical choices with limited study time.

The Blackmar-Diemer begins with 1.d4, but stylistically is much more like an 1.e4 opening and not a good foundation for a long-term 1.d4 repertoire.

You know there are opening books to help you build your opening repertoire. Why not consult with one!

He doesn't need a book anymore, I just gave him the best lines

IM Chessexplained has a video series on 1. d4:  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9FA3D5561ADFB090

no offense to anyone...but most talk of lines (main ones and variations) all go over my head....may just be me...is that weird? also, aside from the main name of the openings im using, i cant remember the names of the lines and variations....i blame poor memory and visualisation :p

like yureesystem, i think i prefer to read opening books...errrr...preferrably ones that emphasize concepts and principles over lines...does that at all make sense?

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