Ruy Lopez: bird variation

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Trapper4

I am currently unable to post a diagram, so I'll just say the variation:

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 Nd4

I played white against mr. Parham in a recent tournament, and he countered with that...the game continued with

4 Nxd4 exd4 5 c3 Qg5! 6 Bf1 Bc5 7 d3 Qf6 8 f3 Ne7 and so on...

So how do I play against it? I noticed that mr. Parham likes to bring his queen out in the beginning.

Pacifique

Whats wrong with 4 Nxd4 exd4 5.0-0 (instead of 5.c3) ?

Trapper4

Good question...I just wanted to develop my b1 knight.

IOliveira
Trapper4 wrote:

I noticed that mr. Parham likes to bring his queen out in the beginning.

That is probably why he is called mr. Parham.

Trapper4
II-Oliveira wrote:

That is probably why he is called mr. Parham.

I dont get it.

Trapper4

Yeah i know i messed up the opening...next time ill castle on move 5

Trapper4

Yep, I played against 'im. It was fun Smile

Splane

Dana MacKenzie has written extensively on this opening. I highly recommend reading his articles, posted here:

http://danamackenzie.com/about/chess/blog-archive/bird-by-bird-table-of-contents/

NimzoRoy

Have you tried using the Game Explorer here? Go through a few master games with this substandard defense and see how Masters play against it. I'd also suggest springing for a copy of MCO-15 (2008) a good one vol reference for openings and if money is tight find a used copy of MCO-14 at amazon or eBay. NCO (1999) is also a good one vol opening reference work, so is BCO-2 (1989) but it's getting dated now, so I use it as a backup to MCO-15.

BTW I don't suggest you just mindlessly use any DB to play the move with the highest winning percentage from your side of the bd for any opening, you should also focus on the most recent games and/or games played by the highest-rated players (in general). Keeping in mind your own preferences, strengths and weaknesses is also a good idea when approaching a new opening.

Trapper4

Thanks for all the help guys! Feel free to talk about this opening more in this post.

tigergutt

I never saw the interest for black using two tempo to trade the knight at d4 for no obvious reason But i guess Black can play on:)

DrSpudnik

I played the Bird Variation for quite a while and won't touch it for anything any more. It usually ends in tragedy for me. A draw is a great outcome. In that, it is more or less on the Parham level.

Trapper4
shraavanchess2000 wrote:

If Trapper4 still checks this thread, here is a huge hint when playing against Bernard Parham as white. Play the Italian Game, and he'll bring out the Blackburne-Schilling Gambit! I've faced it all three times I've played against him. I only have a 50% score against him due to gross blunders at the end, but out of the opening, I have had a great position with over 1 point of advantage each time. I have my own system against it (not like there are no others out there, but I think mine works especially well against his early queen sally to h4). After 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nd4?! 4. Nxd4 exd4, play 5. d3!? Most opening manuals and instructors will tell you to play c3 and open the center since you're far more developed, but I don't want to open the a7-g1 diagonal and allow any tricks. Instead, my fifth move helps support f4 and a pawn storm using the e- and f-pawns. And, if need be, I can play c3 later and take back with the knight or the pawn, whichever is more suitable. I can castle short and make a battery on the f-file with the queen and rook behind the f-pawn, which would be on f4. Parham usually plays 5. ...Qh4, and then one of my games continued with 6. 0-0 Bd6?! 7. f4 Nh6?! 8. Qf3 Ng4 9. h3 h5 10. Bd2 Nh6. Black's tenth just proves that Nh6-g4 was simply a waste of time and helped me get further developed. He also had to incur a kingside weakness with h5 and eventually lost that pawn. Parham's position has looked hilarious each time we have played. Breaking only one opening rule by bringing the queen out early is probably manageable, but doing that and also putting the king's bishop in front of the queen's pawn, developing the king's knight to h6, and playing the h-pawn to h5 in an Open Game is definitely inviting trouble.


Thanks for the tip! Ill definately play italian game against him next time! :) Yeah, I noticed Bernard likes to bring his queen to h4/h5 (depending on if hes white or black.) But seriously, playing 2 Qh5 after 1 e4 c5 is just redicolous. I think that d3 is an interesting response to 4....exd4. It also helps devolop the black squared bishop more easily. Thanks for all the advice! :)