Ruy Lopez Variation, What is White's Move?

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This is a position I ran into OTB as part of an attempted Ruy Lopez Exchange Variation.  What is White's Best Move?

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Objectively? Tough call.

 

Bxf7+ is a speculative sacrifice, since the Bishop's dead in the water anyway, as an in-between move before the Queen has to get out of there. I'm not sure it's 'best'.


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It might be more productive to post the whole game since it seems that White has played some strange moves to end up in this position.
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It is called the Noah's Ark Trap, and results from the classic Ruy Lopez Exchange Variation.  Black just counter-attacked with c5.
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king out off the table.
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b-b4
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King out off the table is the best move.
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dalmatinac wrote: King out off the table is the best move.

 I apoligize dalmatinac, but I do not understand the meaning of your post.  Do you mean white should resign at this point?  Please clarify.


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White is in a bad way... when he moves his queen   ....c4 wins a piece.
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Unbeliever wrote: dalmatinac wrote: King out off the table is the best move.

 I apoligize dalmatinac, but I do not understand the meaning of your post.  Do you mean white should resign at this point?  Please clarify.


 Honestly,stupid puzzle.Sorry


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zvonko wrote: king out off the table.

I disagree.....White wins two pawns for the bishop and has great chances to create a passer (or more)and  black also has an isolani.  While black may have an advantage the game is far from over

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White shouldnt be in this position yet. why wasnt the rook brought to the center before initiating the exchange.
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dalmatinac wrote: Unbeliever wrote: dalmatinac wrote: King out off the table is the best move.

 I apoligize dalmatinac, but I do not understand the meaning of your post.  Do you mean white should resign at this point?  Please clarify.


 Honestly,stupid puzzle.Sorry


 This is not a puzzle dalmatinac, this is a situation I came across on the board while playing black.  White resigned as a result of the pressure on his pieces, and I wanted to know what people who are rated higher than me think about white's chances.


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You wrote,"what is the best move for white"     white to move

THE ANSWERE IS NO THE BEST MOVE FOR WHITE!   


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How can this be an exchange variation with the white king's bishop still on the board?  The exchange variation goes :  3 Bb5 a6  4 Bxc6
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erikido23 wrote: zvonko wrote: king out off the table.

I disagree.....White wins two pawns for the bishop and has great chances to create a passer (or more)and  black also has an isolani.  While black may have an advantage the game is far from over


 White has nothing


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Unbeliever wrote: dalmatinac wrote: Unbeliever wrote: dalmatinac wrote: King out off the table is the best move.

 I apoligize dalmatinac, but I do not understand the meaning of your post.  Do you mean white should resign at this point?  Please clarify.


 Honestly,stupid puzzle.Sorry


 This is not a puzzle dalmatinac, this is a situation I came across on the board while playing black.  White resigned as a result of the pressure on his pieces, and I wanted to know what people who are rated higher than me think about white's chances.


It was nice of white to resign.  Personally, with a ratings disparity that big white could have taken the loss of piece for a pawn and loss of initiative in exchange for black's ability to castle and played on in hopes that he would be paid back with interest in blunders, possibly allowing a win or a draw.  For that matter, if I would be playing someone that much higher and he would offer a draw, I'd take it without thinking unless I saw a clear mate.  Wink

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Reb wrote: How can this be an exchange variation with the white king's bishop still on the board?  The exchange variation goes :  3 Bb5 a6  4 Bxc6

 Yes.How?


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dalmatinac wrote: erikido23 wrote: zvonko wrote: king out off the table.

I disagree.....White wins two pawns for the bishop and has great chances to create a passer (or more)and  black also has an isolani.  While black may have an advantage the game is far from over


 White has nothing


Oh well I am glad you cleared that up with all your evidence... :rools eyes:

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Qd3 c4  Bxc4 bxc4 Dxc4 0-0    white has nothing