The Kostic Trap

Ok I was researching the Bird's Defense and it made me think of this opening. If someone takes the e5 pawn in the bird's defense in the same way, is this also called "The Kostic Trap" or is there another name for it?

Do you play this opening? If so, let's play this line (I'll play White).

That trap is extremely dubious. If they fall you'll win, if they don't you're in serious trouble. And there is only one move which falls (Nxe5) so don't rely on this opening.

I've never once played that opening, I was just asking because one of my first 'teachers', Josh Waitzkin, fell for the Kostic Trap in a national youth tournament and got into trouble in his first year, and I remembered a video of him talking about it many years ago when I was first learning.

I was wondering if a ~scholastic~ tournament had a game with this line and someone played Nxe5, if there was a proper name for it, and if not, would it be considered "The Kostic Trap" as well.

I always knew this as the Blackburn Schilling Gambit

I lost to it many years ago, a mirror image of the game above in a lightening chess tourney (10 seconds a move)

In the second diagram you posted white's bishop is just hanging right away.

It's not that I have anything to do with the Kostic trap? Do I?

game 2--why skewer pieces when knight takes bishop wins a piece immediately? does white have a counter-trap or something?

Correct.  1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nd4 4.Nxe5?? is not a trap of any kind, just a blunder.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nd4, the Blackburn-Schilling, is a trap that everyone falls for once. (I was fortunate enough to survive for a draw!)  4.Nxd4! exd4 5.O-O clearly favors White, as there is time for Qe2 and Re1 where Black will have a hard time breaking with ...d5 or developing the kingside.  In my opinion this is a cleaner advantage than 5.c3 - White is essentially a whole tempo up on the Bird's which is already borderline dubious for Black.

lol, I'm not saying Nxe5 is a good move, or even remotely part of sound theory in the Bird's Defense... I'm just saying when people who've never seen it before play it in a bullet or blitz without thinking, does it have a special name apart from the name it has in the Blackbourne-Schilling Gambit?

don't worry about naming openings. just play the freaking game. do you know how many people pay attention to the names of openings and variations they are playing in a given game? 0.

I can't uderstand why everyone talks to me like I'm stupid! I'm quite aware the bishop is hanging, buttface. If you'd run it through an engine you'll find that taking the bishop is actually not even the best move.

I'm sorry that everyone here is constantly upset by the fact that I'm unemployed, but that has nothing to do with this topic, and you should in no way transfer those ill feelings towards me because of all of you people's godly powers to "know" things about me when I have not told you myself or given you permission to know them through intermediaries.

The fact that this is so obviously not my fault that you all are just either 1. completely freaking stupid or 2. clearly screwing with me or 3. protecting the "children" with whom I have been lumped in with against my will in ratings out of vengence for my "inproprieties"

Please refer to the post about the conspiracy against me and tell me I'm wrong either about your unbeleivable stupidity or your unbeleivable evil malice towards me.

Now, if you don't know about the specific question I asked please don't supplant a damn knock at me in it's place!

There is no name for the opening variation you provide neither should you worry about opening names when you are playing chess. Play according to the board, not the book.

Thank you kind sir, but I will worry about anything I deem apporpriate. I appreciate your advice and I will take it into consideration. Again thank your for your advice, which in no way resembles agitation, angst, aggression, vengence, malice, snottiness, or disrespect.

And secondly I'm not playing chess, I'm talking about it in a forum. 

And thridly, stop giving me advice that you would give to an elementary school student. I'm obviously above the "knowing the basics" stage. But by all means continue to do what you're doing simply to treat me like garbage because you're making a point about how you believe I should behave in the "real world"

NOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHOW UP IN MY FORUM TOPIC AGAIN WITH NO OTHER INTENT THAN TO BELITTLE AND HARASS ME, AS IF I'VE NOT SEEN LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO COME BY YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

Please, do. I hope to never see you near one again.

And stop assuming a rating level is an invitation to belittle someone. I've already written copious forum threads on how my ratings is sandbagged due to people like you who treat me a certain way on purpose... as was just demonstrated.

Actually, memorizing opening names is pretty basics. In fact, a 1900 on here has cited numerous ancient chess players such as Capablanca that the best way to improve is to study endgame tactics and ditch opening theory.

The only way my own rating started going up was, you guessed it, abandoning opening theory and studying tactics.

I first heard of it as the "Kostic Trap", although, obviously the Blackbourne-Schilling name would predate Kostic, who played in the 1910's through 1950's.

Josh Waitzkin (the wunderkind that the movie "Searching for Bobby Fischer" was based off of) called it the "Kostic" in his video annotations (from the 90's) of when he fell for it in U.S. Junior Championships... I assume the name came from his teacher, Bruce Pandolfini.

The databases and things I've seen all call it the Blackbourne-Schilling instead of the Kostic which may indicate it's use is a local one in some circles, possibly at the Marshall Chess Club, and not worldwide (I'm not in contact with any GM's I could ask)....