What a beginner should play against 1.d4

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1...Nf6 has more bites i use it more often when playing black against 1. d4.Make use of the bishop on g7. Tactical surprises are numerous'just have fun looking and searching for subtle combinations.

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I don't think that choice is very important : main lines 1.d4 is rare U1800, so I think any opening will do, provided you try to understand what the set-up is supposed to achieve.

Even for pure instructional value, there's no clearcut choice. Perhaps you could point out some openings which are easier to play, or give rise to open/closed structure more often, but no more than that.

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 Play the king's indian defense if your opponent plays the d4-opening or the Queen's pawn game.Many players won because of that defense.

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ajedrecito wrote:

For your level:

1.d4 d5

2.Nc3 Nf6 (preventing e4 at all costs!)

3.Nf3 Bf5 (It's nice to get this piece out! In a lot of 1.d4 openings it is stuck on c8 for a while. Also prevents e4 for a long time)

Just watch out for stuff like

1.d4 d5

2.Bf4 Nf6

3.Nc3 Nc6

4.Nb5

Here Black is fine (4...e5 5.dxe5 Nh5 or 5...a6 should let Black live) but it's certainly living on the wild side. To avoid this, try 2...Bf5 3.Nc3 c6.

I like a developmental setup with (against lines where White does NOT play c4 early....usually in the case where White DOES play c4 , you have to watch out for Qb3 and so leaving the bishop at home on c8 is generally advised) Black plays pawn to d5, knight to f6, Bishop to f5(sometimes g4 is ok) then sets up a structure with pawns on c6 and e6, knights on d7 and f6, castles kingside with darksquare bishop on either e7 or d6 (watch out for e4-e5 pawnfork idea if you play it to d6). This works against most White setups after 1.d4 or 1.c4. Typical ideas include h6(to preserve the strong lightsquare bishop in the event of a knight coming to h4), and either a c5 or e5 pawn break to gain more room for your pieces (only play e5 AFTER castling! and probably after playing a rook to e8 as well!).


1...d5! Thank you. And a big thanks on the many 1.d4 tips which got pasted into my Coach Ajedrecito folder. Smile

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hicetnunc wrote:

I don't think that choice is very important : main lines 1.d4 is rare U1800, so I think any opening will do, provided you try to understand what the set-up is supposed to achieve.

Even for pure instructional value, there's no clearcut choice. Perhaps you could point out some openings which are easier to play, or give rise to open/closed structure more often, but no more than that.


Yes. I see 1.e4 far more than 1.d4 at my level. I'll give 1...d5 the first crack, even though I find the Nimzo-Indian of interest.

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OK I am beginner and I play d5.  So I think that is what you should play to be beginner!

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It depends on your style of playing...

My favourites are the Albin Countergambit (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5!?) and the Grundfeld Defense(1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5) and now I'm preparing to give the Benoni (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5) and the Benko Gambit (after the Benoni, 3.d5 b5!?). But don't go for an opening because it has a nice name or a GM says it is good, play whatever suits you (Don't take any of the openings I mentioned if you don't like open games, for example).

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I play a system like a reversed closd Sicilian as Black vs. the English.

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See #34 above.

A lot of people who start out by c4 or Nf3 try to back into a Q-pawn opening. So having a reply for these is pretty much part of a general repetoire. If you're interested in playing toward a QGD setup, you could play e6 & d5 and try to force White's hand. Also, against the Reti, 1.Nf3 d5  2.c4 e6 is another attempt to shift to the QGD. But White may resist. And, you may not want that setup as Black anyhow. If you want an Indian game, 1...Nf6 would be the way to go, but then against the English, Nf6 could meet Nc3 & e4, shifting the game entirely in a direction Black may not want to go.

This is complicated. I need more beer! Laughing 

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The reverse Closed Sicilian has also a pawn on f5. If necessary, the Nc6 drops down to e7 so the pawn can go to c6, allowing the QB to escape.

I'm a bit skeptical of 1. Nf3 Nc6, since a closed game player will be very unlikely to play e4. I would be tempted to play a Dutch (1...f5) sytsen against them, and if they continue without d4, play for a quick d6/e5.

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Beginniers should play something solid like the slav, then branch off to the semi slav and associated openings as they develop skills and knowledge. The idea behind the opening has to be understood, otherwise they are on a hiding to nothing.

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I suggest the QGD.

But don't play the Slav or Semi-Slav yet since they are more complex, especially the Semi-Slav.

By the way, you found a chess club in your area recently right? Maybe talk to players there and see if they can help you improve your game through actual in person live tutoring sessions or something.

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How about the universal opening the tartakower. there is not much to learn because it is just a setup.

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segway123 wrote:

How about the universal opening the tartakower. there is not much to learn because it is just a setup.


This is...not accurate.