What are your thoughts on early queen trade openings?

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I don’t like them that much

EG

This kinda thing I don’t like to play

Avatar of ExtremeDragon2

bad

Avatar of Crystal9431

I don't like them much either. I think the queens are important for the endgame.

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cus trash

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BlunderousWilliam wrote:

I only like them when my opponent's the one recapturing. No more castling!

But castling isn’t terribly important when you don’t have a queen, especially kingside castling 

Avatar of FarewellToKings2112

I like black in this particular line of the Caro.... although I lost a pretty long game against NM Evan Ling after a few inaccuracies in the middlegame. Generally I dissuade the trade in this line, and only really would trade queens if there is some clear advantage (i.e. doubled pawns for opponent, two bishops, superior pieces, etc.) happy.png

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They make the game too much endgame, If I was a good endgame player yes, but sadly that is not the case so nop

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PrisonOfXanadu wrote:

I like black in this particular line of the Caro.... although I lost a pretty long game against NM Evan Ling after a few inaccuracies in the middlegame. Generally I dissuade the trade in this line, and only really would trade queens if there is some clear advantage (i.e. doubled pawns for opponent, two bishops, superior pieces, etc.)

I’ve never been comfy in this line, which is why I don’t play dxe4 in this line 

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they r trash for both sides

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rychessmaster1 wrote:
PrisonOfXanadu wrote:

I like black in this particular line of the Caro.... although I lost a pretty long game against NM Evan Ling after a few inaccuracies in the middlegame. Generally I dissuade the trade in this line, and only really would trade queens if there is some clear advantage (i.e. doubled pawns for opponent, two bishops, superior pieces, etc.)

I’ve never been comfy in this line, which is why I don’t play dxe4 in this line 

 

As black, I've tried Bg4, g6, and Qc7 with more exciting games happy.png

Avatar of chazzasmith

I like them cos I'll probs blunder my queen at some point later anyway so might as well get the queen for it whilst I can

Avatar of captainkirkingit

I know and understand why most people don't like early queen trades, but I love them. (Not the ones where I recapture with Kxd1 or Kxd8 though). I generally do better when there are less pieces on the board, and I can get to a less complicated (at least in my eyes) endgame. I feel that I play endgames much better than I play the middlegame, and the quicker I'm in an endgame, the better I'll do. No disrespect to those who look down on early queen trades, as most, if not all of you lot are actually good at navigating the middlegame with more pieces on the board.

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rychessmaster1 wrote:
BlunderousWilliam wrote:

I only like them when my opponent's the one recapturing. No more castling!

But castling isn’t terribly important when you don’t have a queen, especially kingside castling 

 

Avatar of ChristOurSavior

Beginners trash at endgames. Literally went from 1300-1700 uscf just off of endgames #AlwaysTrade

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ChristOurSavior wrote:

Beginners trash at endgames. Literally went from 1300-1700 uscf just off of endgames #AlwaysTrade

Yeah I'm only like 970 rapid but I play endgames much better than that, so if I can trade queens early, I will.

#AlwaysTrade

Avatar of neelnabar

def

yes

 

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im bad at endgames lol

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rychessmaster1 wrote:

I don’t like them that much

EG

This kinda thing I don’t like to play

That centre pawn structure leads to "Rauzer formation centre" which is generally considered a better pawn structure for black in endgame. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawn_structure

 

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RainingPawns28 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

im bad at endgames lol

Hah! Noted, I’ll make sure I force an early queen trade and a big piece trade off to a rook and pawn endgame in my daily game against you.

Im not sure youll survive the opening though

Avatar of king5minblitz119147

ulf andersson intentionally tries to reach queenless middlegames/endgames practically with his entire repertoire. it has good practical merit, as theory will stop investigating once equality is reached, and so you are on your own by then. the sooner you get out of theory, the sooner you can try to outplay the opponent little by little.

proving a draw out of an equal position is an exhausting and thankless task against a good technical player.