sorry brah but this is boring chess. i mean you can play it maybe to draw stronger opponents but better try get a real men opening repertoire which offers winning chances. good luck
What do you guys think of the KID Exchnage
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After 10... c6 black takes the advantage as white's seemingly strong pawn centre falls. I'm afraid to say I agree with IamNoMaster, this line is stale and much less pleasant than some of the more "main" lines of the KID. Sure, if you don't want to learn theory and get to a simple position easily then it's fine.
as a KI player since many years (maybe 25 and more), i am always happy to face exchange variation.
several reasons :
- White players usually play it to avoid complications, but dxe5 is just a concession for white, losing centre and giving advantage for black for the pawn structure (hole on d4...).
- White players play for a draw : huge mistake, they will play passive and lose...
- White's players usually don't know how to play next, but exchange KI is also very theorical and white often goes in a bad direction...
Theorically speaking, exchange variation is not threatening for black, because white loses his space and central advantage. It is interesting though if played at high level, because there are some subtleties but these ones are most of the time too complicated for average players...
As a KID player, when my opponent plays the borest line you seem to enjoy, here is what I reply:
Good luck for any lower White rated player to find his way. (muHAhaHA... Ha... hem)
If you don't see what is behind the move 9.Rd7, don't worry, you are probably part of most sub-2100 players who would think Black just blundered a pawn and whould play 10.Nxe5.
Rd7 is a dubious move brah, just saying..... there is a reason why noone plays like this. i am only 789 FIDE though so dont listen to me.
Who's talking?
noone except a 789 fide. but pls explain to us what the idea behind Rd7 is, my common sense tells me its bullcrap.
IamNoMaster a écrit :
noone except a 789 fide. but pls explain to us what the idea behind Rd7 is, my common sense tells me its bullcrap.
it was not against Inkiov but Ivkov (ok its sounds almost the same...) :
The main line is 9...Nxd5 which usually transpose into the big line 9.Bg5.
But Rd7 is an interesting independant try, and may be a very good way to set problems.
I wonder why IAmNoMaster tells it is dubious, concrete line?
I dont play this line so i am no expert there but it just feels like a weird move. For example why not the simple Nxf6 instead of Nxe5? I wonder what the rook on d7 does? Btw Poucin i know you posted a game or something but i cant see it because i am on my Phone and it is doesnt show the game. Regards
IamNoMaster wrote:
I dont play this line so i am no expert there but it just feels like a weird move. For example why not the simple Nxf6 instead of Nxe5? I wonder what the rook on d7 does? Btw Poucin i know you posted a game or something but i cant see it because i am on my Phone and it is doesnt show the game. Regards
He JUST showed a game with 10.Nxf6+. Why not wait until you are able to view his post before responding? The above post is a waste of everyone's time, similar to all of your other posts here.
9...Rd7 puts the R on an awkward square, but it aims to guard against White's threats (Nxc7 / Bg5) without making any structural concessions. If White does nothing the followup is ...c6, and play will continue based on what White does about his Nd5.
Also what is with bg5 after Rd7? After Nxe4 i play Ne7+. How do you respond?
IamNoMaster wrote:
Also what is with bg5 after Rd7? After Nxe4 i play Ne7+. How do you respond?
10.Bg5 Nxe4 11.Nxe7+ Kf8 12.Nxc8 Nc6 and you will lose the knight, while having succeeded at developing all Black's pieces.
"I dont play this line so i am no expert there but it just feels like a weird move."
Assessing a position just with your feeling, especially when u don't know it, is a bit superficial...
I am at home now and can see your posts, thanks. Sure that might be true poucin but one has to be honest and admit that a move like Rd7 does not look natural although it seems to work.
I like the kid exchange - if the kid's a brat, sayonara... just make sure you get the right kid when you make the exchange and there will be some good goat meat in the house for many days to come.
IamNoMaster a écrit :
I am at home now and can see your posts, thanks. Sure that might be true poucin but one has to be honest and admit that a move like Rd7 does not look natural although it seems to work.
once again, you only assess with your feeling, and not knowledge or understanding...
Rd7 is a fine square in this variation for the rook, it defends key squares. Ok it blocks Bc8 but anyway in this variation, the Bc8 has no real good squares. And Nb8 will be developped on c6 or a6 (towards b4 or c5-e6) according the circumstances.
Do u think dxe5 is a natural way to play for white? Basically, it is a strategical mistake, but it is playable for concrete reasons...
poucin wrote:
IamNoMaster a écrit :
I am at home now and can see your posts, thanks. Sure that might be true poucin but one has to be honest and admit that a move like Rd7 does not look natural although it seems to work.
once again, you only assess with your feeling, and not knowledge or understanding...
You are expecting this guy to have knowledge or understanding? Have you seen the words that he writes on here? 
I am referring to this line, which I used to draw a master and an expert at my club