what is a good opening for a amateur chess player

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long_quach wrote:
llama44 wrote:

. . . Plus hypermodern openings are not as logical. It's better to follow the natural progression of chess itself with classical openings first.

That's very genius. I should have thought of that. A person playing chess is like the history of chess in "fractal" time.

That is in everything.

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I wish I had thought of it. I read it from an interview with Kramnik.

He said he can't quite explain it, but he thinks a player should follow the natural progression of the history of chess starting with Steinitz

(I think it's logical too, so when he says he can't quite explain it I wonder what he means exactly)

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llama44 wrote:
 

Thank you

I wish I had thought of it. I read it from an interview with Kramnik.

I really should have thought of it. It's really genius.

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llama44 wrote:

Thank you

I wish I had thought of it. I read it from an interview with Kramnik.

The introduction of Top Gun got it right.

"Top Gun" was instituted in 1969 to teach the lost art of dogfighting invented in WWI (1914) because of over reliance on new missile technologies.

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long_quach wrote:

"Top Gun" was instituted in 1969 to teach the lost art of dogfighting invented in WWI (1914) because of over reliance on new missile technologies.

We learned dogfighting from . . . dogs. This is how a fighter and his wigman works.

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... GM Yasser Seirawan. ...

I have mixed feelings about this suggestion. ... Yasser Seirawan's ... Winning Chess Openings. ... My guess is that, of the books of this sort, it is the most readable, but, even in this case, I fear that reading about one opening after another will turn into a dreary task. I wonder if an under-1000 player is better off starting with Discovering Chess Openings, and going on to some book that suggests choices for the reader and explains them with lots of illustrative games.

... Winning Chess Openings ... covers most openings a beginner is going to encounter and then in the final chapters gives very specific suggestions, ideas for opening and defending. It's the main book I read when taking up chess again and it helped me immensely.

... I think trying to read 2, 3, 4 or more books on openings only results in information overload. ... Discovering Chess Openings, if it is a book similar to Yasser's, then read it. It is important to get some exposure to openings, understand the theory/principals behind why the moves are made, then selecting one or two you are most comfortable with. And that's why I recommend Yasser's book, as that is exactly his idea for beginners. ...

I am glad that Winning Chess Openings worked for you, but

"... everyone is different, so what works for one person may likely fail with another ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627084053/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman19.pdf

You were “taking up chess again” and perhaps already had a fair amount of experience? In any event, for many of us, without illustrative games, it is hard to get much out of an exposition on the “theory/principals” of one opening after another. I wonder if such a presentation helps very many to identify ”one or two” openings with which one will be “most comfortable”. Discovering Chess Openings does not attempt to cover “most openings a beginner is going to encounter”, and, consequently, I think that it is able to do a better job explaining things that an under-1000 player needs to know about the center, development, etc. Attempting to read 2, 3, or 4 books can certainly be “information overload” if the books are mostly just collections of stuff to memorize. On the other hand, if the reading is mostly illustrative games, it can be an instructive experience that does not have to be undertaken all at once in order to be helpful.

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Gollum2005 wrote:
What is a good opening for a amateur chess player
As white and as black

White: Castle fast. e4.

Black: c5, asymmetric. The more symmetrical, the easier for White to figure out, and White is 1 move ahead.

Yeah, Paul Keres's opponents had such an easy time when he replied 1...e5

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long_quach wrote:
llama44 wrote:

Thank you

I wish I had thought of it. I read it from an interview with Kramnik.

The introduction of Top Gun got it right.

"Top Gun" was instituted in 1969 to teach the lost art of dogfighting invented in WWI (1914) because of over reliance on new missile technologies.

 

I know this is off topic, but what's interesting to me is why they decided to have so many shots with a dark foreground and bright background. The main character (whether it's a person or jet) is often silhouetted. It really stands out because you don't often see that.

I guess it fits with the music and everything, and of course it's a well known and popular film... but

Just imagine how you'd make an action movie about young men and fighter jets... the first thing that comes to mind isn't this ambient music and silhouetted characters. They're building up this elegant atmosphere, and maybe that's a nice contrast to the action that comes later. I don't know, but it's obviously on purpose and AFAIK it's not common.

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If I remember correctly, there was a decision to add more scenes to the movie after most of the filming was done. The story goes that they did the extra filming in such a way as to avoid the necessity to closely match with character appearances in other parts of the film.

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Interesting.

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Spelenderwijs wrote:
long_quach schreef:
Gollum2005 wrote:
What is a good opening for a amateur chess player
As white and as black

White: Castle fast. e4.

Black: c5, asymmetric. The more symmetrical, the easier for White to figure out, and White is 1 move ahead.

Yeah, Paul Keres's opponents had such an easy time when he replied 1...e5

At the beginner level, I suspect that one’s opponents will know more about 1 e4 e5 than about 1 e4 c5, but perhaps one does not have to advance very far before encountering opponents knowing about both.

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Interesting Top Gun fact:

Charlie's "older man" date at the officer's club is the real-life "Viper", Pete Pettigrew. He is a retired Navy pilot and TOP GUN instructor, and shot down a MiG during the Vietnam War. He served as the technical consultant on the film.

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Naroditsky encourages lower rated players to play aggressively as white and solidly as black. In his speed runs he plays the Danish as white because it helps teach thinking tactically, and the Caro Kann as black, because it helps teach solid positional play. Neither are hard to grasp and both have a lot to offer.

He’s a strong GM and an excellent teacher. He explains things well and is never snarky and he doesn’t talk down to anyone. Go to YouTube and search “Naroditsky speed run” and start with the very first one.
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I just realized the OP was a year ago. I really should look more carefully.
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Look for ones where you can think for the first 15 moves or so in the game.  That's where most traps show up for starters.