What is going on with the Mikenas Defense Lithuanian Variation?

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GYG
1983B-Boy wrote:

but here in the REAL WORLD, gambiteers OWN the opposition.

^^ this

I hear the same narrative all the time from gambit naysayers.

The 1600s say "those gambits work against 1400s, but once you start to play 1800s you'll need to learn a real opening"

The 2000s say "those gambits work against 1800s, but once you start to play masters you'll need to learn a real opening"

blah blah blah

The reality is, at least in online chess, dubious gambits work unbelievably well at every single level.

gik-tally

Here's me beating an 1866 in 19 moves in the smith morra GAMBIT DELINED (generally a nightmare for me)

an 1838 in 11

i beat an 1895 in the falkbeer counter gambit (I do better than the stats in this line)

and here's me beating an 1850 in 21 in the icelandic gambit, which I really never even played preferring the old fashioned scandinavian gambit which is NOT that tactical these days.
 
EVERYONE makes mistakes, and I actually find it EASIER to play higher rated opponents! it's the lower rated ones with their weird little "never seen that before" crap that trips me all up. that's why I'm having such a hard time clawing back to the 1700s, but the charlick and mieses are helping!
 
here's a "flawless grandmaster" getting spanked by a 1700 in the smith morra GAMBIT
 
bottom line as more than one GM has said, 
"It's harder to defend than attack"
 
I think too at the higher levels, players get lazy and ignore their gambit theory because no one else plays it anymore. the longer I play and study, the better I'll know MY theory. 
 
even at the GM level, king's gambit STILL kicks more butt!
at 30:50:20 in 237,359 games! by YOUR THEORY... black should be winning, but ISN'T!
 
other gambits don't fare as well, but you're talking about a level where centipawns actually matter when in real amateur games, it's COMMON for both players to make 5 point mistakes as the eval has a heart attack.
 
if you want to refute my charlick, please do BRING IT! I'll play it all day long, and by the end of the day, I'll be even better at it. I'm having SO MUCH stress relieved dropping that much of the stone wall
 
gik-tally

charlick gambit stats from 1600-2000:

black isn't winning in ANY line. You should look at amateur games sometime. your preconceptions won't last long... ESPECIALLY sing lines where slalefish's favorite move has hideous losing stats whereas the -5 one is +10%.

no matter where my rating is, i don't want to play boring quiet games... EVER! that's why I quit TO BEGIN WITH!

even filterING 1600 & 1800 out for just 2000s...

and black STILL isn't winning shee! You are most wrong. are you going to be ANOTHER hard head who parrots GMs and ignores REALITY?! don't be that guy! numbers don't lie!

the "coolest" thing about the stats? FEW DRAWS! GM approved lines are soooo drawish! yuck!

gik-tally

I'll be back to share my last charlick. It was effing 80 moves long, but it was ALWAYS exciting, trying to stick to the core themes of the opening and USE MY PIECES.

It was such a challenging game that I "good game"ed my opponent. (Stupid spell check had a nervous breakdown over that)

I underpromoted to a rook on purpose to avoid stalemate and should have just sacked my pawn and knight to get my opponent out in the open. I lose "won" games chasing kings around my own effing pawns. I despise pawns

gik-tally

actually my very most recent charlick is another mini

I just love the wide open lanes to get my pieces where they need to be sooooooo much I don't miss those two pawns at all!

here's the 80 move slugfest

I probably should have just sacked the knight and pawn to get right to the end game. I waste lots of time and even some won games chasing kings around my own pawns and pieces. I also underpromoted to a rook on purpose. I don't promote to a queen unless I have to to minimize the stalemates I play for myself when I'm losing. It's more work, but far less margin for error, especially when time's low

I've never been happier than playing the charlick. it's the exact opposite of the stonewall and it lets me come up with attacks and counters all the time. it's a really good opening for berserkers like me.

Ilampozhil25
1983B-Boy wrote:

"sound openings" SUCK! THEY'RE TOOTHLESS!

heres some stattage

lichess players database obv

1600-2000

ruy lopez: 51-44

kings gambit: 52-45

marshall gambit is a non issue given the a4 ANTI marshall at 52-43

how, you may ask?

positional aggression exists

you may hate it, but it exists and is perfectly good

darkunorthodox88

hopefully the OP will decide to learn to play real chess one day instead of going for cheap development attacks. that stuff dont work on experts and above. Not with any level of consistency that is.