What is the hardest opening for average players?

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nimzo indian

Ethan_Brollier
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:

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alexlehrersh wrote:
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Badchesserrr wrote:
d4iscrazy написал:
Yes the 1400 tells us what is hard and not. Smh 🙈

Bro you litteraly dont know crap. You are sidestepping the theory with the queens gambit smh.

There’s MORE theory in the Queen’s Gambit than in the Indian. I wouldn’t recommend trash talking someone both way smarter and way more skilled than you, especially if you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Nah doubt it

The Semi-Slav alone may have more theory than every single Indian (minus the KID) combined, and the QGD proper has an insane amount of theoretical variations, the Slav has a very large theory book, and then there’s also the various QGDs, the Tarrasch, the QGA, the Albin, the Grunfeld transposition via the Marshall, like there’s a LOT of theory to the QG.

Meanwhile with the Indian games, there’s the KID which has a theory load to rival the QGD proper, but aside from that most of the Indians have many variations, but the theory ends at like move 6 or 7.

Bro did you just say that more book moves = more theory?

First of all, I thought you blocked me (LMFAO) because I’m Russian in your mind, so why’re you still responding to me?

Secondly, no. I didn’t say that. Book moves for Semi-Slav usually end around move… 11-15 IIRC? But the theory in, for example, the Botvinnik Semi-Slav actually runs all the way into the endgame into a forced theoretical draw, the Meran has like 6 or 7 variations which all have theory lasting deep past move 25, et cetera.

But you are blocked.

Well then why are you still interacting with me?

Badchesserrr4486999
Ethan_Brollier написал:
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:

 Ethan_Brollier написал:
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:
Ethan_Brollier написал:
alexlehrersh wrote:
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Badchesserrr wrote:
d4iscrazy написал:
Yes the 1400 tells us what is hard and not. Smh 🙈

Bro you litteraly dont know crap. You are sidestepping the theory with the queens gambit smh.

There’s MORE theory in the Queen’s Gambit than in the Indian. I wouldn’t recommend trash talking someone both way smarter and way more skilled than you, especially if you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Nah doubt it

The Semi-Slav alone may have more theory than every single Indian (minus the KID) combined, and the QGD proper has an insane amount of theoretical variations, the Slav has a very large theory book, and then there’s also the various QGDs, the Tarrasch, the QGA, the Albin, the Grunfeld transposition via the Marshall, like there’s a LOT of theory to the QG.

Meanwhile with the Indian games, there’s the KID which has a theory load to rival the QGD proper, but aside from that most of the Indians have many variations, but the theory ends at like move 6 or 7.

Bro did you just say that more book moves = more theory?

First of all, I thought you blocked me (LMFAO) because I’m Russian in your mind, so why’re you still responding to me?

Secondly, no. I didn’t say that. Book moves for Semi-Slav usually end around move… 11-15 IIRC? But the theory in, for example, the Botvinnik Semi-Slav actually runs all the way into the endgame into a forced theoretical draw, the Meran has like 6 or 7 variations which all have theory lasting deep past move 25, et cetera.

But you are blocked.

Well then why are you still interacting with me?

I actually have no idea how i even see your messages...

Kowarenai
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:
Kowarenai написал:

the london system

if that average player goes for the pyramid..
Well black becomes preferable...

nah thats terrible the best way imo is to transpose either to a dragon or caro kann setup

Kowarenai

probably not the best example but black has so much flexibility in these positions with comfortable middlegames that they can choose to either be aggressive or calm

player9642
I think its Ruy Lopez
PLXMN2

A lot of Sicilian’s but I think it is any kind of Ruy Lopez

Zubroni

ruy lopez

has to many sidelines to play against

Badchesserrr4486999
Nick4507 написал:

ruy lopez

has to many sidelines to play against

Im deeply offended and my day is ruined.

Badchesserrr4486999
d4iscrazy написал:

bro got so mad about someones opinion he had to make a post about his feelings

true

checkmate_MFer

Looks like a Spanish Conquistador, if the knights flank of course

Lil_Doggo_TNT

the nuts because you have none

DrSpudnik

I thought it was The Schmidlap Maneuver!?

exceptionalfork
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:
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the london system

if that average player goes for the pyramid..
Well black becomes preferable...

5.Bd3 is not an idea in that position, because then the bishop is just "biting on granite" due to black going into a position where the pawn is on g6. Main line is 5.Be2.

Also, 8.dxc5 looks awful, why would white do that? That's just giving black the center with an eventual ...e5. Just castle instead.

Badchesserrr4486999
exceptionalfork написал:
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:
Kowarenai написал:

the london system

if that average player goes for the pyramid..
Well black becomes preferable...

5.Bd3 is not an idea in that position, because then the bishop is just "biting on granite" due to black going into a position where the pawn is on g6. Main line is 5.Be2.

Also, 8.dxc5 looks awful, why would white do that? That's just giving black the center with an eventual ...e5. Just castle instead.

Are you defending the london?!?!?!

Badchesserrr4486999
vikicaviki написал:

Ruy lopez has soooooooooooo much lines that I as a 1800 refuse to study it.

dude you legit created your account 11 days ago and played only 39 games...

AnnexKing

Probably the Sicilian because of how many variations and theory it contains.

AngryPuffer

this dude @vikicaviki also spams the stonewall attack as white

so many better options than the stonewall its why you lose so much

Badchesserrr4486999
AnnexKing написал:

Probably the Sicilian because of how many variations and theory it contains.

But you can stick to 1 variation ngl.

AngryPuffer
vikicaviki wrote:

Atleast its working great.

ur losing most ur games with it :laugh