what should i play vs the sicilian (now a discussion of whites side of the sicilian)

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Sea_TurtIe

personally i would avoid Be3 in the grand prix solely because of this position where black clamps down on everything

Sea_TurtIe

and if 0-0

then you get this

black has too much counterplay and this is why i advocate for avoiding the closed

AhmedAryan
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

and if 0-0

then you get this

black has too much counterplay and this is why i advocate for avoiding the closed

Black also has this line:

SamuelAjedrez95
AhmedAryan wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

hmm yes

the games where black plays the sicilian...

tbh no one plays the sicilian lol

this was meant to be more of a long term question

but yeah i was kinda thinking like that: go into the mainline but then not the main main line

what about... every other sicilian tho (not forcing a reply here, i can go into it myself if i want)

and more about the board you posted... then what would white want? some sort of kingside attack with f4 or g5 or h4 or some combination of those?

i am getting into more attack and opposite castling type stuff so i am completely fine with that suggestion, thank you

If you really want kingside attacks just do the freaking Grand Prix attack.

White is going to lock their kingside bishop outside of the pawn chain and potentially trade it for the c6 knight. Then, castle, Nf3, and when your opponent castles short, play Qe1 to use the opened diagonal, and go for an early f5. The f5 and Qe1 attacks work against only Accelerated Dragon Sicillians though.

No, it didn't follow the principles of the Grand Prix attack.

This is what it'd sort of resemble in a Grand Prix attack game. What is g3, you're supposed to lock your light-sqaured bishop out of the pawn chain.

You're supposed to play g3 if your opponent plays a6. Why? Because you have to take into account what your opponent wants to play. If they play a6, you're obviously not playing Bb5 because that hangs a bishop and you immediately lose and wonder why you still play chess after that embarrassingly stupid blunder. You can't play Bc4 because that runs into b5, gaining a tempo on your bishop and gaining space on the queenside. Your bishop has no really good square to run except its starting square which makes you feel stupid for moving your bishop in the first place.

Against a6 Sicillians you have to play a4.

Prevent b5 and go Bc4.

oh yeah i forgor about that

wait @SamuelAjedrez95 what was the line you showed me where black just got a winning position again, it was somewhere in the other sicilian thread

He hasn't been here since an hour ago.

Somebody said my name

Sea_TurtIe
AhmedAryan wrote:
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

and if 0-0

then you get this

black has too much counterplay and this is why i advocate for avoiding the closed

Black also has this line:

where the heck do you find these goofy videos that i obsessed over when i was 400 elo and would just watch them and baka mitai memes onstop?

SamuelAjedrez95

@TheSampson

Which line?

Also a4-Bc4 is a terrible plan. Nge7-d5 is a good response.

And black gets the Pyramid of Giza.

Now that I think about it the e7 knight is blocking the bishop so it probably isn't so good, unless white plays Bc4.

If white plays Bc4 then they lose to the Pyramid of Giza.

If white plays d4 instead then they are ok, but then a4 was just a wasted tempo.

AhmedAryan
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

@TheSampson

Which line?

Also a4-Bc4 is a terrible plan. Nge7-d5 is a good response.

And black gets the Pyramid of Giza.

Now that I think about it the e7 knight is blocking the bishop so it probably isn't so good, unless white plays Bc4.

If white plays Bc4 then they lose to the Pyramid of Giza.

If white plays d4 instead then they are ok, but then a4 was just a wasted tempo.

Pyramid of Giza just comepletely loses a pawn to axb5.

Sea_TurtIe

yes but if you were to put your average e4 player below 2000 into fear factor and you try to make them play d4 they wont succeed

AhmedAryan
Sea_TurtIe wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

and if 0-0

then you get this

black has too much counterplay and this is why i advocate for avoiding the closed

Black also has this line:

where the heck do you find these goofy videos that i obsessed over when i was 400 elo and would just watch them and baka mitai memes onstop?

Ohio youtooz has an unlimited supply. But honestly just go to his channel.

AhmedAryan

Also you can try this line against the Anti-Grunfeld

Later into the opening, black can gambit the h5 pawn.

AhmedAryan

Also, I just realized in the Legendary Pawn vs Legendary Rook video contains pawn saying "...'till my last breath." ...You know what this calls for.

Sea_TurtIe

anyone feel free to use this picture on 361

Sea_TurtIe

anyone feel free to use this picture when interacting with people who fear playing 3.d4 @samuelajedrez95

AhmedAryan
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

anyone feel free to use this picture when interacting with people who fear playing d4 @samuelajedrez95

... Main opening... f4. What do I do?

Sea_TurtIe

d4 against the sicilian

SamuelAjedrez95
AhmedAryan wrote:

Pyramid of Giza just comepletely loses a pawn to axb5.

Black gets a lot of initiatuve for the pawn.

SamuelAjedrez95
AhmedAryan wrote:

... Main opening... f4. What do I do?

Try the Delayed Grand Prix Attack

AhmedAryan
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:

Pyramid of Giza just comepletely loses a pawn to axb5.

Black gets a lot of initiatuve for the pawn.

Oh I didn't notice the bishop on a2.

AhmedAryan
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:

... Main opening... f4. What do I do?

Try the Delayed Grand Prix Attack

Against the Hedgehog variation try this btw.

Ilampozhil25

youre all having a nice time here

i will cut it short

*presses block on ahmed aryan*

done