I play 3.Nc3 and now:
The Alekhine-Chatard Attack is quite fun.
If black avoids it with 3...exd as long as you know some theory you can often get a big attack. A common setup against a few things can go (c3, Nf3, Bd3, Qe2, h4, Ng5 (either knight) or Bg5, and now attack attack attack).
If black avoids it by playing the winawer then obviously that's not boring (in fact it's usually too exciting for my taste).
Black's idea by playing e6 is to bore the opponent to death. Any books that suggest fun variations versus the French?
You are ignorant if you really think that! I play the French and it is only White that can bore Black by exchanging on move 3.
The French is the second most aggressive response to 1.e4, only behind certain lines of the Sicilian.
That is White that decides the nature of the game in the French. Want a blood bath? Play 3.Nc3, knowing you will occasionally have to play a more positional game and take advantage of the extra space for White if 3...dxe4. Otherwise, white dictates whether to take a slow, positional route with the Tarrasch, blockade and try to suffocate black but be slower in development with the Advance, or exchange and basically play for a draw.
And what that previous post implies is you have to decide which Variation you want to play before any book can be recommended.
If you are going to play 3.Nc3, you will want Negi's book on the French and Caro-Kann.
If you are going to play 3.Nd2, you will want Shaw's book on the French and minor Sicilian lines.
If you are going to play 3.e5, you want Sveshnikov's book on the French Advance.
If you are going to play 3.exd5, can't help you. Exchange Variation is crap. From 2014 to now, I have lost to the Exchange only one time over the board in a very fast time control. All other games I have won or drew as Black.
Maybe consider:
1.e4 vs. The French, Caro-Kann & Philidor By Parimarjan Negi (2014)
http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/1-e4-vs-The-French-Caro-Kann-Philidor-76p3875.htm
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/GMRep-1e4-vol1-excerpt.pdf
How to Beat the French Defence by Andreas Tzermiadianos (2008)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627050257/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen115.pdf
Playing 1.e4 - French Defence & Sicilian Sidelines by John Shaw (2018)
https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Playing1e4FrenchDefenceSicilianSidelines-excerpt.pdf
Black's idea by playing e6 is to bore the opponent to death. Any books that suggest fun variations versus the French?
You are ignorant if you really think that! I play the French and it is only White that can bore Black by exchanging on move 3.
The French is the second most aggressive response to 1.e4, only behind certain lines of the Sicilian.
That is White that decides the nature of the game in the French. Want a blood bath? Play 3.Nc3, knowing you will occasionally have to play a more positional game and take advantage of the extra space for White if 3...dxe4. Otherwise, white dictates whether to take a slow, positional route with the Tarrasch, blockade and try to suffocate black but be slower in development with the Advance, or exchange and basically play for a draw.
The French is the second most aggressive response to e4 after the Sicilian LMAO
Black's idea by playing e6 is to bore the opponent to death. Any books that suggest fun variations versus the French?
You are ignorant if you really think that! I play the French and it is only White that can bore Black by exchanging on move 3.
The French is the second most aggressive response to 1.e4, only behind certain lines of the Sicilian.
That is White that decides the nature of the game in the French. Want a blood bath? Play 3.Nc3, knowing you will occasionally have to play a more positional game and take advantage of the extra space for White if 3...dxe4. Otherwise, white dictates whether to take a slow, positional route with the Tarrasch, blockade and try to suffocate black but be slower in development with the Advance, or exchange and basically play for a draw.
The French is the second most aggressive response to e4 after the Sicilian LMAO
Laugh all you want. You sound like a retard doing it because it is true. Black goes for an all out attack on the Queenside and will usually win if he can avoid getting mated or losing massive amounts of material before reaching an endgame.
Black's idea by playing e6 is to bore the opponent to death. Any books that suggest fun variations versus the French?
How does that old cliche go?....."The first step in solving a problem, is to first recognize you have one" and if you think that 1...e6 players only role in life is to bore their opponents to death then you don't really understand the problem.
The French Defence is about a slow build up in the center with inventual counter strokes against the White center with c5, Nc6, Qb6 and f6 (that is depending on Whites move order of course). If one does not appreciate this and meet this general theme of the French with appropriate development (and ideas) than as chess.com's own Oscar the Grouch so eloquently put it you risk get mated in short order.
Finally, books. I have a cross section on the French Defence (including ECO) and they are all of a muchness. It really depends on how wide you have set your sites. I don't, I like the Advance against the French and two Nc3 systems as a back up
Have a nice day!
And here is more proof of the fact that the French is not boring. Played this game over the board on Sunday.
http://chessstream.com/Land-Of-The-Sky/Games.aspx
Select McCartney - Bakthisaran
Black made one very slight error on move 11 (11...f6 is correct, after which White has nothing better than 12.exf6 gxf6 and the Bishop can in some cases be developed to d6 instead of the passive e7).
Watch how White continues to throw punches at Black! And keep in mind, the player playing White has probably played over 500 game with the French as Black! Round 1, which is not posted on that site, saw the same player play Black and win, also in the advance variation:
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Qb6 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.a3 Nh6 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Be3 Bd7 10.Nc3?? Nxe3 11.fxe3 Nxb4 12.axb4 Bxb4 13.Rc1 Rc8 14.Qb3 Qa5 15.Kd2 O-O 16.Bd3 Rc7 17.Ng1 f6 18.exf6 Rxf6 19.Nge2 Ba4 20.Qb2 Rf2 21.Rhg1 Bb5 22.Bxb5 Qxb5 23.Kd1 Qd3+ 24.Qd2 Rxc3 25.Rxc3 Qxd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bxc3+ 27.Kxc3 Rxe2 28.Kd3 Ra2 29.Rb1 b6 30.g4 Rxh2 31.Ra1 Rg2 32.Rxa7 Rxg4 33.Re6 Rg6 34.Rb7 h5 35.Rxb6 Kf7 36.Ke2 Rg3 37.Kf2 h4 38.Rb8 Kf6 39.Rf8+ Kg5 40.Re8 Kf5 41.Rf8+ Kg4 42.Re8 Rf3+ 43.Ke2 Rf6 0-1
So as can be seen in both cases, it is not to bore you! It is to kill you!
You now see two games, neither of which boring, one where White wins and one where Black wins!
The French is not boring necessarily but one has to be quite bad at chess to make statements like those.
And your own personal statistics, kind sir, do not reflect anything about the opening whatsoever.
And the Pirc/Modern are genuinely sharper ways of playing against 1. e4 than basically admitting that you are willing to play a dead even symmetrical position a tempo down, and white shouldn’t even go for it because white has better.
Refrain from using derogatory language because it only shows that you don’t have any good argument to make.
Ordered.
The French is not boring necessarily but one has to be quite bad at chess to make statements like those.
And your own personal statistics, kind sir, do not reflect anything about the opening whatsoever.
And the Pirc/Modern are genuinely sharper ways of playing against 1. e4 than basically admitting that you are willing to play a dead even symmetrical position a tempo down, and white shouldn’t even go for it because white has better.
Refrain from using derogatory language because it only shows that you don’t have any good argument to make.
Clearly you have not seen sharp if you think the Pirc is sharper.
Go check out the poisoned pawn. White can make the Pirc dull just as much as he can make the French dull, so you can only compare apples to apples, and so you want to compare sharpness, get on your boxing gloves and give me what you've got there! Austrian Attack? Blah! You can't out-sharp the French Poisoned Pawn!
And here is more proof of the fact that the French is not boring. Played this game over the board on Sunday.
http://chessstream.com/Land-Of-The-Sky/Games.aspx
Select McCartney - Bakthisaran
Black made one very slight error on move 11 (11...f6 is correct, after which White has nothing better than 12.exf6 gxf6 and the Bishop can in some cases be developed to d6 instead of the passive e7).
Watch how White continues to throw punches at Black! And keep in mind, the player playing White has probably played over 500 game with the French as Black! Round 1, which is not posted on that site, saw the same player play Black and win, also in the advance variation:
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Qb6 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.a3 Nh6 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Be3 Bd7 10.Nc3?? Nxe3 11.fxe3 Nxb4 12.axb4 Bxb4 13.Rc1 Rc8 14.Qb3 Qa5 15.Kd2 O-O 16.Bd3 Rc7 17.Ng1 f6 18.exf6 Rxf6 19.Nge2 Ba4 20.Qb2 Rf2 21.Rhg1 Bb5 22.Bxb5 Qxb5 23.Kd1 Qd3+ 24.Qd2 Rxc3 25.Rxc3 Qxd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bxc3+ 27.Kxc3 Rxe2 28.Kd3 Ra2 29.Rb1 b6 30.g4 Rxh2 31.Ra1 Rg2 32.Rxa7 Rxg4 33.Re6 Rg6 34.Rb7 h5 35.Rxb6 Kf7 36.Ke2 Rg3 37.Kf2 h4 38.Rb8 Kf6 39.Rf8+ Kg5 40.Re8 Kf5 41.Rf8+ Kg4 42.Re8 Rf3+ 43.Ke2 Rf6 0-1
So as can be seen in both cases, it is not to bore you! It is to kill you!
You now see two games, neither of which boring, one where White wins and one where Black wins!
I checked the french game....I played somewhat same variation with black too.
But then I looked at more games of you and saw you play a King's Indian with 6.Qe8 . I never seen that move, is it some pet line of you? Hope this will not get OT...but wondered where you got that line from.
And here is more proof of the fact that the French is not boring. Played this game over the board on Sunday.
http://chessstream.com/Land-Of-The-Sky/Games.aspx
Select McCartney - Bakthisaran
Black made one very slight error on move 11 (11...f6 is correct, after which White has nothing better than 12.exf6 gxf6 and the Bishop can in some cases be developed to d6 instead of the passive e7).
Watch how White continues to throw punches at Black! And keep in mind, the player playing White has probably played over 500 game with the French as Black! Round 1, which is not posted on that site, saw the same player play Black and win, also in the advance variation:
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Qb6 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.a3 Nh6 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Be3 Bd7 10.Nc3?? Nxe3 11.fxe3 Nxb4 12.axb4 Bxb4 13.Rc1 Rc8 14.Qb3 Qa5 15.Kd2 O-O 16.Bd3 Rc7 17.Ng1 f6 18.exf6 Rxf6 19.Nge2 Ba4 20.Qb2 Rf2 21.Rhg1 Bb5 22.Bxb5 Qxb5 23.Kd1 Qd3+ 24.Qd2 Rxc3 25.Rxc3 Qxd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bxc3+ 27.Kxc3 Rxe2 28.Kd3 Ra2 29.Rb1 b6 30.g4 Rxh2 31.Ra1 Rg2 32.Rxa7 Rxg4 33.Re6 Rg6 34.Rb7 h5 35.Rxb6 Kf7 36.Ke2 Rg3 37.Kf2 h4 38.Rb8 Kf6 39.Rf8+ Kg5 40.Re8 Kf5 41.Rf8+ Kg4 42.Re8 Rf3+ 43.Ke2 Rf6 0-1
So as can be seen in both cases, it is not to bore you! It is to kill you!
You now see two games, neither of which boring, one where White wins and one where Black wins!
I checked the french game....I played somewhat same variation with black too.
But then I looked at more games of you and saw you play a King's Indian with 6.Qe8 . I never seen that move, is it some pet line of you? Hope this will not get OT...but wondered where you got that line from.
I actually play a number of lines in the King's Indian. That is just one of them. I've also played 6...e5 and 7...Nc6 along with 6...e5 and 7...Na6.
That 6...Qe8 line comes from GM Damian Lemos in his "Deep Dive" series, specifically number 6 in the series, which covers the King's Indian Defense.
I think you can find all of his on the IChess site. I am 95% sure those are from IChess.
I told you guys, do not listen to ThrillerFan, he is a troll.
He's not the sort of troll that goes around talking about his universal system that wins every time, in some ways he's even worse because sometimes he sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
I told you guys, do not listen to ThrillerFan, he is a troll.
He's not the sort of troll that goes around talking about his universal system that wins every time, in some ways he's even worse because sometimes he sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
No, the real troll is this shmo named Uhohspaghettio1. Go back to Ireland and do the only thing the Irish are good at. GETTING DRUNK!
Well this went downhill fast!
... ThrillerFan, he is a troll.
He's not the sort of troll that goes around talking about his universal system that wins every time, ...
Haven’t seen that. Has anyone?
... ThrillerFan, he is a troll.
He's not the sort of troll that goes around talking about his universal system that wins every time, ...
Haven’t seen that. Has anyone?
oh you know, players who think their e3 Colle or Zukertort or self-invented system or whatever is the best. Or more often these days it's probably the opposite - taking engine evaluation as the all-knowing truth in openings and just putting out their lines as analysis without taking much consideration of how they are to play. Also players who don't have a good understanding making mistakes and giving wrong analysis.
I didn't mean to specifically bring up poor aul' sloughterchess, who was a polite poster and hardly the worst out there, but since you asked for an example there you go.
You can say a lot of things about the French, but one thing you cannot say is that it's an aggressive opening.
Black's idea by playing e6 is to bore the opponent to death. Any books that suggest fun variations versus the French?