Wow I just read the rest of the thread...
When do you "double step" a pawn?
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Jun 21, 2020
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#44
Wow!
Steven-Odonoghue gets it, but clearly the OP still doesn't.
To add salt to the wound, SNUDOO gives the same Caro-Kann example that I gave, and he praised SNUDOO after knocking me for the same example.
SMH! (And shaking it so hard my brain popped out of my right ear!)
Jun 21, 2020
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#45
ThrillerFan wrote:
To add salt to the wound, SNUDOO gives the same Caro-Kann example that I gave, and he praised SNUDOO after knocking me for the same example.
SMH! (And shaking it so hard my brain popped out of my right ear!)
Let's start with this video before comparing what you communicated and what SNUDOO replied with.
You replied initially with, "That is a horrible example by the OP because Black's play sucks!"
This may turn away your readers.
Aside from the insulting, you also typed, "A better example is in the Caro-Kann Defense"
My OP was not an example. SNUDOO didn't treat the post like it was an example, they stated, "It shows e5 because that’s a thematic pawn break in those sort of structures."
They addressed the context of the game. Regardless if Caro Kann, the French, or the Sicilian was added to it, it is at least communicated that they recognized the position or positions I asked about. Maybe they are lying, and maybe they are just pretending to understand since they didn't give detailed explanations why it was a "thematic pawn break". punter99 brought up something about opening a diagonal which peaked my interest. Perhaps SNUDOO can elaborate and give examples of how there is or could be a pawn break in my game.
So, ask yourself, did you do anything to contribute to conflict or did you address the game and then provide other advice? In another thread I recently started I suggested people giving advice show another game and compare moves in my game with a game they chose. This might help get across your points too.
And in your case particularly, I know you from the past couple years on chess.com and that you are a very strong French player. You are even playing a Winawar game now that I am following. What I suggest you do is stop talking to people on these forums about the French or the Caro Kann (if you also are strong in that opening) and simply help weaker players in the games they played. Then, after you focus on their games and address moves or do the comparison contrast as I suggested, invite them to a French/Caro Kann club or whatever you want to call it.
There, you can have a specialized group of people to share your knowledge with, and it will be appreciated by online users more than insulting them right off the bat. I hope this serves as a beginning of a truce, and my people will meet your people to sign the armistice papers tomorrow.
Jun 22, 2020
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#47
ThrillerFan wrote:
Wow!
Steven-Odonoghue gets it, but clearly the OP still doesn't.
To add salt to the wound, SNUDOO gives the same Caro-Kann example that I gave, and he praised SNUDOO after knocking me for the same example.
SMH! (And shaking it so hard my brain popped out of my right ear!)
Lol, I was just typing off the top of my head without reading all the comments, and Caro kann was something that popped into my head since that pawn structure is seen a lot in my games.
Jun 22, 2020
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#48
SNUDOO wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
Wow!
Steven-Odonoghue gets it, but clearly the OP still doesn't.
To add salt to the wound, SNUDOO gives the same Caro-Kann example that I gave, and he praised SNUDOO after knocking me for the same example.
SMH! (And shaking it so hard my brain popped out of my right ear!)
Lol, I was just typing off the top of my head without reading all the comments, and Caro kann was something that popped into my head since that pawn structure is seen a lot in my games.
Caro Kann is an example of the thread title. You can't post the board game in the title of the thread.
Perhaps this is the end of forums. Everyone is conditioned to communicate through Twitter short statements. When they read the title of a thread, they reply to that and not the actual post which includes the game.
Maybe chess.com needs to find a way to post board images like they do with the game history. You can hover your mouse over a game and see the end position.
We could have forums where you simply ask "Is e5 good in this position as black?" and then next to it is the board image. People won't have to click anything to get to the board.
I think it's important to understand that a lot of us are beginners here and it's not good practice to respond with an immediate insult to the poster. I had this exact same question and i'm sure all of the people responding to this post have had their own when they were starting out as well. Although it was really funny reading the unnecessarily reactive and drawn out arguments this post elicited. I admit, only punter99 seemed to provide the answer I was looking for.
I am not sure if there is a name for this, but there should be. I'll call it a "double step". This is where you initially move a pawn one square in the beginning and soon after you move it again breaking the beginner's rule of not moving the same piece twice early on in a game. If this does not apply to all pawns, then I am specifically talking about the d and e pawns at least.
In the following position, Stockfish shows e6 is the best move. Then, it shows e5 later. So, what new rules/guidelines can you use to break the beginner rule to not to play the same piece twice early on in a game?
It shows e5 because that’s a thematic pawn break in those sort of structures. As you play more you’ll get to know different pawn structures. For example, usually in the Caro kann you’ll play c6 and c5 later. It’s unavoidable; you’ll have to “double step” if the position demands it.
hope it helps.