100 Reasons Why Kirk Is better Than Picard !

PS: That is a great list that the OP posted on the first page.

PPS: The big list on page 3 is very good also.

PS #3: And the big list on page 6 is terrific too.

Sisko beats Picard and Kirk combined. He had Kirk's brazeness, Picard's diplomatic skills and moral compass, and he could get the job done.

Picard wins because Kirk is a Sisko fanboy.

Interesting, since Kirk was the one who blazed the path that Sisko toddled along after. He sat in his little space fort when Kirk went out where no one the hell had wented befored.

I dealt with things like the Horta. Sisko dealt with things like the Dominion.

1. Kirk is a leader, not a follower. Picard has the wisdom to know when to lead and when to follow.
2. Kirk never really got into that kinky JUMPSUIT look. Picard has the discipline to follow orders.
3. Kirk has sex more than once a season. Picard has the restraint to treat women as equals rather than as conquests.
4. One word. Hair. Many find the bald, wise look far more appealing than a silly cowboy.
5. Another word: Pretty-good-looking-can't-see-the-weave-WIG. Picard's dignity and refined social skills are very sexy.
6. Kirk can beat up a Klingon bare-handed. Picard is smart enough to not get into these situations where he has to.
7. Picard is a French man with an English accent. Picard is from a lineage of sailors dating back to ancient history.
8. Kirk would date Beverly Crusher -- and damn the consequences!! Picard married Beverly Crusher.
9. Kirk never drinks tea. Ever. Picard has impecable taste in beverages.
10. Diplomacy for Kirk is a phaser and a smirk. Picard's diplomatic skills defused otherwise violent situations.
11. Kirk would personally throw Wesley off the bridge. Picard encourages one to find their full potential rather than judging them by sex or age.
12. Two words. Shoulder Roll. Two words. Stands tall.
13. Kirk doesn't wear dresses when Admirals arrive for lunch. Picard was always dressed for the occasion.
14. Kirk once said, "I've got a belly-ache -- and it's a beauty." Picard remained on the bridge and in command when his health was at its worst instead of complaining about it.
15. Kirk would never sing to children in a crisis. Picard knew how to calm and focus those under his care and command.
16. Kirk can almost drive a stick shift. Picard can pilot a Romulan Fighter.
17. Kirk, almost single handedly, re-populated the Earth's whale population. When faced with Q, Picard saved the entire human race.
18. Kirk says "Prime Directive? What Prime Directive?" Picard respected culture and history.
19. Kirk knows 20th century curses. Picard is too dignified to curse.
20. Kirk was NEVER infiltrated by the Borg and used against the Federation. Picard defeated the Borg, and at the same time, re-established the timeline and saved the entire human race (again).
21. Kirk ate little coloured cubes and still remained relatively healthy. Picard retained his health even after being stabbed through the heart.
22. Kirk made do with obviously low performance technology. Picard planned ahead so he didn't have to rely on low performance technology.
23. Kirk never pretends to be a barber in order to gain tactical advantage. Picard was shrewd enough to swallow his pride and do what needed to be done when the time came.
24. Kirk wasn't shy about taking his shirt off -- even around those pesky Yeomans. Picard had too much respect for others and dignity than to take his shirt off in public.
25. Kirk would never waste a holodeck on something stupid like Dixon Hill. Picard valued the necessity of diversion.
26. Kirk never once stood up and straightended his shirt. Picard wore uniforms that didn't hang off him like old gunny sacks.
27. One word. Velour. One word. Intelligence.
28. Kirk can beat a Vulcan at chess. Picard can stand with a Klingon during the most intimate and secretive rituals of the Klingon Empire.
29. When Kirk was Picard's age, he retired from Admiral and took to climbing rocks. Picard never quit then changed his mind.
30. When Picard was 37, he was only Captain of the lowly freighter Stargazer. When Kirk was 37, he was Captain of the flagship Enterprise. Picard understood the value of patience.
31. Kirk liked a good belt of liquor every now and again. Picard enjoyed fine wine an Romulan ale rather than cheap bourbons.
32. One word. Iman. One word. Team.
33. Kirk looks good with a ripped shirt. Picard looks dignified, even with a dagger though his heart.
34. If Kirk ever met a Ferengi, he would rip off its head and poop down it's neck. Picard wouldn't cause interstellar war by ripping off a Ferengi's neck.
35. Kirk says "Shoot first and wait for retaliation." Picard searched for nonviolent solutions to issues.
36. Kirk's first officer NEVER tells him to stay on the bridge. When Picard decided it was time to leave the bridge, he didn't take his first officer with him, leaving the bridge undercommanded.
37. Kirk never leaves the room to bawl someone out. Picard maintained discipline.
38. Kirk doesn't rely on the wisdom of some dumb old janitor to get him out of intergalactic scrapes. Picard had the humility and temperance to listen to others.
39. Two words. Funky sideburns. Two words. Great accent.
40. Kirk never asks his bartender for advice. Picard thoroughly evaluated his options before making brash decisions.
41. Kirk never once said "Abandon ship! All hands abandon ship!" Picard was a tactician and knew when to signal strategic retreats.
42. Kirk is not politically correct. Picard kept his personal opinions to himself for the sake of discipline and interstellar peace.
43. Kirk never got "dumped" by a woman for an intergalactic busy body named after a letter of the alphabet. Kirk never faced the power of Q or Borg.
44. Kirk never wore green tights and frollicked about in Sherwood forest. Picard placed the safety of his crew above his own pride.
45. If there was ever a Klingon on Kirk's bridge, Kirk would be dead. Picard could control a Klingon by his own character and mere command.
46. Ever hear of a bar shooter called, "Make it so"? No? How about a "Beam me up Scotty"? See the difference? Picard had more important things to do than make up names for bar shooters.
47. One word. Miniskirts. Picard had a ship's counselor who was almost naked through much of her career. And she wasn't green.
48. Kirk's girlfriends always looked good in soft light. Picard's girlfriends could hold their own beside Picard instead of hiding behind him.
49. Kirk never went anywhere without a whole bunch of guys in red shirts. Picard didn't shield himself behind other men.
50. Kirk's first officer didn't play some wimpy instrument like the trombone. Picard encouraged culture among his crew.
51. Kirk had more dates than his first officer. Picard committed himself to one woman at a time.
52. The extent of Kirk's knowledge of Klingon vocabulary can roughly be translated as, "GO F___ YOURSELF." Picard knew more languages than Kirk.
53. If something doesn't speak English -- it's toast. Picard could speak through his own knowledge to those who didn't know English rather than universal translators.
54. Kirk wasn't some prissy archeology fan. Picard pursued intellectual interests and was never intoxicated.
55. Picard's middle name isn't as tought or awe-inspiring as Tiberius. Kirk's first name was not so refined and cultured as "Jean-Luc".
56. If Kirk finds a strange spinning probe, he blows it up. Picard sought to gather new technology for the Federation instead of destroying it.
57. Picard never met Joan Collins. Kirk never screwed a Doctor.
58. Picard flunked his entrance exams to Starfleet. Kirk cheated on his exams in Starfleet.
59. Picard hasn't fathered any children; Kirk--probably millions. Picard was a father figure to many young people.
60. Kirk has a cool phaser -- not some pansy Braun mix-master. Picard had cool Type 3 phaser rifles.
61. Two words. Line delivery. Two words. Sovereign Class.
62. Picard grew up on a quaint little French vineyard, squishing grapes with his toes, while Kirk slung bales of wheat and hay in Iowa to put himself through school. Picard never smelled like a farmyard.
63. Kirk emphasizes his orations with pertinent hand gestures. Picard's voice needed to further emphasis.
64. Kirk once made a cannon out of bamboo, sulphur, potassium nitrate, charcoal and then fired diamonds into the hearts of his enemies. (Need we say more?) Picard beat down a Federation enemy with a horse saddle.
65. Kirk is not put off by green skin. Picard did not notice the color of one's skin.
66. Kirk knows how to deal with peace loving hippie goofs. Picard knew how to deal with fighting diplomats, often averting war and deaths of thousands.
67. Kirk once fought a Greek god. And won. Kirk once fought Q, and another time, the Borg -- and won.
68. Kirk barely asks for suggestions. And if he does, he asks Spock only. Kirk was too prideful to ask for anything, which nearly cost his crew their lives on more than one occasion.
69. Kirk doesn't let the doctor tell him what to do. Picard refused to see the Doctor, except when forced.
70. One word. Fisticuffs. One word. Judo.
71. Kirk's name is hated throughout the galaxy. Picard's name is respected throughout the galaxy.
72. Kirk appreciates Shakespeare, but he doesn't let it show. Picard was self-confident enough to let others know what he appreciated instead of hiding it.
73. You can never lock up Kirk for very long. Picard could endure weeks of torture and maintain his sanity and dignity.
74. Kirk's eulogies can actually make you cry. Picard cried at funerals, but didn't let it show.
75. Kirk plays god with lesser countries, and then exploits them for their resources. Picard never bullied.
76. Kirk's son would never drop out to become a musician. Picard's son would never create weapons of mass destruction.
77. Kirk can climb up a Jefferies tube and fix anything. Picard didn't need a pilot to fly a shuttle.
78. Kirk never hired an engineer with punk glasses. Picard's engineers were always sober.
79. The Klingons didn't have a word for surrender -- until they met Kirk. Many a Klingon's fled with their tailpipes at Picard's superior naval combat skills.
80. Kirk's bridge is not beige. Picard's bridge didn't have flashing Christmas lights, knobs, buttons or viewfinders.
81. Two words. Crane shots. Kirk never had a naval maneuver named after him.
82. Picard likes wimpy violin music -- and coerces Data into playing it. Kirk couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, let alone showed any other artistic talent.
83. Picard allows cats on board, while Kirk beams away even really cute things like tribbles. Picard revered all life.
84. Kirk is a cultural icon -- Picard is just some guy who is really nice. Picard was the first one called to settle disputes with Federation enemies because Starfleet knew he could do it.
85. Kirk specifically ordered a swivel LA-Z-BOY for the bridge. Picard already had one.
86. Kirk would never touch SYNTHANOL. Picard was never drunk.
87. Kirk looked distinguished in reading glasses -- and nobody dares call him "four eyes" Picard had 20/20 vision and didn't need reading glasses.
88. Kirk can infiltrate gangsters, Nazis, and even the Pentagon -- easily. Picard could infiltrate a gang of artifact thieves and bring them to proper justice; something Kirk could never do.
89. Picard likes painting nudes, for art's sake. Kirk wouldn't know a painting from a Romulan.
90. When Kirk doesn't trust the Romulans, he fires at them. When Picard doesn't trust the Romulans, he gets fired at. Picard never blew up his own ship and he never got ran off his own ship by Klingons.
91. Kirk never once, ever, wore a wiener wrapping Speedo banana hammock on shore leave. Picard's idea of shore leave was to rescue ancient artifacts at great risk to his very life.
92. Kirk never gets his command codes locked out by some pimply acting ensign. Picard never had his first officer steal his ship.
93. Kirk doesn't test the engines -- he just fires them up. Picard was smart enough to test his engines before firing them up. [Thanks, BorgQueen]
94. When Kirk says "Boldly Go", he MEANS it. Picard never led his crew into an ambush led by Khan Noonien Singh, nor got trapped inside a planet, nor got sent to Rura Penthe.
95. Three words. Flying leg kick. Two words. Quantum Torpedoes.
96. Picard's crew would never ever think of him as a sexual object. Kirk's crew would never think of him as a fitting life mate.
97. Kirk travelled through the Great Barrier, met God, and wasn't even impressed. [LoL, that's pretty good!] Picard led the charge to discover that the species of the galaxy orginated from one. He brought unity where Kirk brought division.
98. Kirk's bedroom is a passion pit with electric sheets. Picard's bedroom was a place of solace.
99. Kirk would never let his Chief of Security wear a pony tail. Kirk would never think to take advantage of the power of a Klingon.
100. One word. BALLS. One word: Culture. Okay, 2 words: Culture, and Dignity

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Good ones, Captain Pike! I still say Sisko is best.

Hey, William Shatner may be abnormally self-centered, but that doesn't mean Kirk was. 

Another nice list by CaptainPike. I may have to modify my listings to Kirk = 1A and Picard = 1B. 

As you know, both William Shatner and Admiral Kirk are world renowned for their modesty.

Out of curiosity, how much of DS9 have you seen?  Same question for BorgQueen.

My guess is not too much.  

Don't make me start posting the Sisko meme.

Poisons a planet, eh? Boy, Picard would have been having a cow! Imagine Picard there while that was going on ... the conflict between the two ... Picard would have found that intolerable!

I'll be honest with you BorgQueen, the first couple seasons aren't great, just like it was on TNG.  But those don't count for best "captain" because Sisko doesn't become a Captain until the end of season three.  That is when the Dominion comes in and the show really gets good.

Startrek.com has all the episodes online for free, but you might have to be in the U.S. to see them, I'm not sure.

If you do decide to watch it, remember that it gets really good when Sisko becomes a Captain and shaves his hair off.  Before that, it's okay, but not the best.

Yep, he probably would have. But it's a great episode, number eight in my blogs of my top ten DS9 episodes, I believe.

cool list captainPike

Ive seen every episode of every star trek and star trek related programs. Picard needed kirk to save his butt. Sisko not only worshiped Kirk <he got his autograph>  but it also took kirk and the original crew to make the best episode of ds9. Lets face it, what really made kirk better than any other was his relationship with Spock. none of the others had a best friend like that. I'll never get over them killing Kirk with a pile of rocks. My guess is Gene Rodenberry would have never agreed to that.

Both Captains were from different times and in different situations. Each one was needed for their situation.

Kirk was at the tail end of exploration, meeting new species with unknown technology, power and intent. The Cowboy was needed for the survival of Planet Earth, the ship, and Starfleet.

Picard was during the age of known life with known technology and known intents and interests, and those intents and interests often produced conflict. The diplomat was needed to maintain the stability of a secure Federation and Starfleet.

Neither could fill either role.

Both could have brought a ship home from the Delta quadrant, though neither could have done so maintainng the balance between defense and aggression, "street justice" and "federation" justice through which Janeway accomplished the feat.

Sisko?

Well, Picard or Janeway could have commanded DS9, and through their diplomatic and tactical skills, probably retained it. Kirk, on the other hand, would have escalated the conflicts between the Cardassians and Bejorans -- then probably ran off and joined the Marquis ...

LOL, great thread.  Kirk doesn't have a First Officer who huffs and puffs and acts all important but who is too afraid to take command of his own ship.