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Did Bobby Fischer have Aspergers Syndrome?

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fburton

Fair enough. I was being somewhat facetious, as you probably guessed.

ForgoneMoose
"Fischer had Asperger's!" said chess.com "No," says dave, "YOU are the Asperger's!!!!!" And then chess.com was an autist.
JamieKowalski

I'm not sure if Fischer had Asperger's Syndrome or not, but I'm pretty sure he had Asshat Syndrome. 

DrCheckevertim
ForgoneMoose wrote:
"Fischer had Asperger's!" said chess.com "No," says dave, "YOU are the Asperger's!!!!!" And then chess.com was an autist.

brilliant. that's going in my profile.

blake78613

I fail to see why speculating is dangerous.  Is not that we are going to try and treat Fischer for the  disorder.  I don't see it any more dangerous than speculating if Hamlet was actually mad.

TheGrobe

Well for starters Fischer's not a fictional character so it's disrespectful at a minimum, but it also sends a message that a condition like Aspergers can be diagnosed:

  1. Having never met the subject
  2. Based on anecdotal and circumstantial evidence
  3. By laypersons
blake78613

I don't think there is anything disrespectful about Aspergers.  A lot of brillant sucessful people have it.   But if for the sake of argument we say it is disrespectful that is long way from dangerous. 

DrCheckevertim

There's really nothing wrong with discussing it...


Could you imagine if we weren't allowed to discuss whether or not certain famous, brilliant people from the past had Asperger's? (or -insert any disorder or condition here-)

 

...and how do you know there aren't people in this discussion who:

a) have met Bobby

b) have evidence

c) have experience with psychology/psychological disorders

 

 

It's a simple quest for insight into the life of this crazy, brilliant man who is so hated and admired alike.

Conflagration_Planet
checkevrytim wrote:

There's really nothing wrong with discussing it...


Could you imagine if we weren't allowed to discuss whether or not certain famous, brilliant people from the past had Asperger's? (or -insert any disorder or condition here-)

 

...and how do you know there aren't people in this discussion who:

a) have met Bobby

b) have evidence

c) have experience with psychology/psychological disorders

 

 

It's a simple quest for insight into the life of this crazy, brilliant man who is so hated and admired alike.

I agree.

bigpoison

I don't.  It's not a quest.  It's mental masturbation.

Spadesplayer
JamieKowalski wrote:

I'm not sure if Fischer had Asperger's Syndrome or not, but I'm pretty sure he had Asshat Syndrome. 

Funny how you personally don't need a hat to be an ass.

DrCheckevertim
bigpoison wrote:

I don't.  It's not a quest.  It's mental masturbation.

I think there is insight available in this thread, and potentially more on the topic.

TheGrobe
checkevrytim wrote:

There's really nothing wrong with discussing it...


Could you imagine if we weren't allowed to discuss whether or not certain famous, brilliant people from the past had Asperger's? (or -insert any disorder or condition here-)

 

...and how do you know there aren't people in this discussion who:

a) have met Bobby

b) have evidence

c) have experience with psychology/psychological disorders

 

 

It's a simple quest for insight into the life of this crazy, brilliant man who is so hated and admired alike.

All three?  Call it a hunch. 

Anyone who would be in a position to confirm such a diagnosis wouldn't be doing it here, and if they did would probably be breaching an ethical oath they'd taken at some point in their career.

Your position is that Fischer's psychiatrist is here, posting in this thread?

Spadesplayer
TheGrobe wrote:
checkevrytim wrote:

There's really nothing wrong with discussing it...


Could you imagine if we weren't allowed to discuss whether or not certain famous, brilliant people from the past had Asperger's? (or -insert any disorder or condition here-)

 

...and how do you know there aren't people in this discussion who:

a) have met Bobby

b) have evidence

c) have experience with psychology/psychological disorders

 

 

It's a simple quest for insight into the life of this crazy, brilliant man who is so hated and admired alike.

All three?  Call it a hunch. 

Anyone who would be in a position to confirm such a diagnosis wouldn't be doing it here, and if they did would probably be breaching an ethical oath they'd taken at some point in their career.

Your position is that Fischer's psychiatrist is here, posting in this thread?

   I like your attitude.  We shouldn't be speculating on the cognition of an brilliant but eccentric chessplayer on a chess website.  We should be afraid to offend a dead person with a non-offensive label. (sarcastically written)  

bigpoison

I'm pretty sure Fischer had a trick knee.

That ain't speculation, it's a wild ass guess.

TheGrobe

I heard wooden teeth.

Spadesplayer
bigpoison wrote:

I'm pretty sure Fischer had a trick knee.

That ain't speculation, it's a wild ass guess.

  We aren't guessing.  If you read the post in it's entirety, you'd know several of us have already mentioned Fischer publically and privately displayed perhaps 6 or 8 of the distiguising characteristics of Aspies. Besides this, which should be enough by itself to justify speculation, someone mentioned that a childhood friend of Fischer said fischer was diagnosed with aspergers.  I don't know what the ... you are talking about  with your "wild ass guesses".  Do you?  Or did you just read a couple posts and then decide to make an ass of yourself by saying something that superficially looks funny but is actually the remark of a fool?

TheGrobe

You don't know that he made an ass of himself. You're just speculating.

bigpoison
Spadesplayer wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

I'm pretty sure Fischer had a trick knee.

That ain't speculation, it's a wild ass guess.

  We aren't guessing.  If you read the post in it's entirety, you'd know several of us have already mentioned Fischer publically and privately displayed perhaps 6 or 8 of the distiguising characteristics of Aspies. Besides this, which should be enough by itself to justify speculation, someone mentioned that a childhood friend of Fischer said fischer was diagnosed with aspergers.  I don't know what the ... you are talking about  with your "wild ass guesses".  Do you?  Or did you just read a couple posts and then decide to make an ass of yourself by saying something that superficially looks funny but is actually the remark of a fool?

I have a hard time believing that you haven't been taught how the scientific method works.

I saw him limpin' dude.  Trick knee, no doubt.  I'm 100% sure.

fburton
bigpoison wrote:

It's mental masturbation.

Don't knock it until you've tried it! (What, you haven't??)