Greatest Chess Master in History

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jazis wrote:

Does anyone remember Mikhail Tal?

I do.  But nobody has nominated him yet.

hitthepin
Who is Igor Ivanov?
SmyslovFan

Igor Ivanov was a great Russian emigre who beat Karpov even though he was only an IM at the time. He won several US Grand Prix tours by traveling all over America playing in any weekend tournament he could find. He also was a heavy drinker who lost to class B players almost as often as he beat elite players.  He eventually earned his GM title. I had the great fortune to play a couple of casual blitz games against him in the 1980s. I drew as Black in a Spanish Exchange, but then got blown off the board as White against his Nimzo-Indian. 

 

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hitthepin wrote:
Who is Igor Ivanov?

Forkedupagain nominated him on the second page of this thread. According to Fork, "Well he did beat karpov in a tournament once. He also showed up to a tournament I'm not sure what year, drunk and lost to a 1300 level player. He was rated at 2500 at the time that's the largest margin of victory' that I've been able to find for a low rated player. He was concert also a concert pianist and a pretty remarkable guy... But he my have had a little drinking problem."

Tongue-in-cheek nominations are accepted. Well, within reason. I rejected nominations of "grandma" and "grandpa."

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Igor Ivanov was a great Russian emigre who beat Karpov even though he was only an IM at the time. He won several US Grand Prix tours by traveling all over America playing in any weekend tournament he could find. He also was a heavy drinker who lost to class B players almost as often as he beat elite players.  He eventually earned his GM title. I had the great fortune to play a couple of casual blitz games against him in the 1980s. I drew as Black in a Spanish Exchange, but then got blown off the board as White against his Nimzo-Indian. 

 

Hey, you drew the guy who beat Karpov.  Not bad.  But was he sober at the time?  wink.png

minichess

my list would be Fischer, Kasparov, Alekhine, Lasker, Capablanca in that order.

SmyslovFan
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SmyslovFan wrote:

Igor Ivanov was a great Russian emigre who beat Karpov even though he was only an IM at the time. He won several US Grand Prix tours by traveling all over America playing in any weekend tournament he could find. He also was a heavy drinker who lost to class B players almost as often as he beat elite players.  He eventually earned his GM title. I had the great fortune to play a couple of casual blitz games against him in the 1980s. I drew as Black in a Spanish Exchange, but then got blown off the board as White against his Nimzo-Indian. 

 

Hey, you drew the guy who beat Karpov.  Not bad.  But was he sober at the time?  

I don't think so. Every time I saw him, he was either playing chess or drinking. Sometimes, both at the same time. Still, he was good enough to win most tournaments he played in. 

Stevie-Nikkers
i beat a guy who beat Carlsen. beat that! (true story)
gangsta123d

I once played Bobby Fischer back in my prime when I was rated around 2500, and I managed to secure the dub. Fischer wasn't that great, so I think Vishy is a much better player.

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minichess wrote:

my list would be Fischer, Kasparov, Alekhine, Lasker, Capablanca in that order.

All good choices.  That's another vote for Fischer.

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Stevie-Knickers wrote:
i beat a guy who beat Carlsen. beat that! (true story)

What year did he beat Carlsen and what year did you beat him?

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gangsta123d wrote:

I once played Bobby Fischer back in my prime when I was rated around 2500, and I managed to secure the dub. Fischer wasn't that great, so I think Vishy is a much better player.

Yeah, back in your prime.  Uh huh.

SmyslovFan
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Hey, you drew the guy who beat Karpov.  Not bad.  But was he sober at the time?  

My Karpov number is two: I beat Larry Christiansen in a simul, who beat Karpov. I won an autographed book for my effort!

 

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SmyslovFan wrote:
FBloggs wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:

Igor Ivanov was a great Russian emigre who beat Karpov even though he was only an IM at the time. He won several US Grand Prix tours by traveling all over America playing in any weekend tournament he could find. He also was a heavy drinker who lost to class B players almost as often as he beat elite players.  He eventually earned his GM title. I had the great fortune to play a couple of casual blitz games against him in the 1980s. I drew as Black in a Spanish Exchange, but then got blown off the board as White against his Nimzo-Indian. 

 

Hey, you drew the guy who beat Karpov.  Not bad.  But was he sober at the time?  

I don't think so. Every time I saw him, he was either playing chess or drinking. Sometimes, both at the same time. Still, he was good enough to win most tournaments he played in. 

He would've had a better career if he didn't play drunk but he probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.

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SmyslovFan wrote:
FBloggs wrote:
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Hey, you drew the guy who beat Karpov.  Not bad.  But was he sober at the time?  

My Karpov number is two: I beat Larry Christiansen in a simul, who beat Karpov. I won an autographed book for my effort!

 

Very good!

Stevie-Nikkers

he beat carlsen when they were teens and i beat him 3 years ago! massive result!

Stevie-Nikkers

ok, he did blitz while i took my time and it wasn't a simul, he only has himself to blame for getting outplayed.

Stevie-Nikkers

he is a member here, a titled guy from norway, i forget the name. sigmundsen or something like that.

jazis
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jazis wrote:

Does anyone remember Mikhail Tal?

I do.  But nobody has nominated him yet.

I shall do that. Mikhail Tal is the greatest chess master of all time!

next 4: Karpov, Fischer, Capablanka, Petrosian

Carlsen is not in list yet

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Stevie-Nikkers wrote:

he beat carlsen when they were teens and i beat him 3 years ago! massive result!

Okay, that counts.  Carlsen was pretty good when he was a teen.