I was trying to think of a practical example of your theory.
They can undoubtedly handle king versus king as well as a super GM.
Other than that, I'm not so sure.
Theory: IM's are just as good as 2600s
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The only thing separating them is results, and that's really what matters.
Feb 1, 2014
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First of all, it's possible to be both an IM and be +2600.
I love Dzindzi's comment: The difference between an IM and a GM is that no GM wants to become an IM.
I think you'd have to ask some GMs and/or IMs. When I was a 1400 rated player I wouldn't be able to comment on the difference between a 1600 and an 1800.
I do recall the Carlsen said something along the lines that the difference between a 2500 GM and a 2800 GM not being so huge.
To put it simply, if they were as strong as 2600-2700s, they'd be 2600-2700..
IM's still don't know how to play chess. Most GM's know a little.
When I started winning against experts, and then listening to a lot of foolish talk amongst NM's, that's when I realized no one is actually 'good' at chess ... it's all relative.
I'm pretty sure your average IM is not as strong as your average GM
It's a bit scary to see games between 2200s and 2400s in which the former are dropping pawns off of the board.
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Please, it's demi-god. Don't feed my ego, it's already got a weight problem.
Feb 2, 2014
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Once more, with feeling:
There have been IMs who were +2600! The two groups are not mutually exclusive. So yes, an IM can be every bit as strong as a 2600!
I forgot that there were IMs rated 2600.
Anton Demchenko was a 2600+ IM for some time in 2012 before becoming GM in 2013
Igor Kovalenko reached 2581 before he became GM
Right now we have this list:
http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml?idcode=&name=&title=m&other_title=&country=%25&sex=&srating=0&erating=3000&birthday=&radio=rating&line=desc
@ steve - I somewhat agree with that..I know a lot about chess..not really though if you think about it...Theres more that I dont know, than I know..and I am a NM admitting this...theres so many possibilities, thats why engines are better than humans.
Why not have chess.com recognize you as a NM to get free diamond membership
Feb 3, 2014
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chessmaster102 wrote:
Only thing seperating them being how well they control there emotions, use their time wisely and stay disciplined about their analysis ? Depending on who the IM is and what type of positions they favor/more familier with there able to play those positions just as strong as a super GM (2700+) would !What do you guys think of this theory ?
I understand you mean from a technical point of view, and you explain the difference by other factors (psychology, nerves...). It might be the case in some games or in some positions, but I doubt non-technical factors only could account for a skill difference of 200 points (maybe 50, maybe 100 ?)
hicetnunc wrote:
chessmaster102 wrote:
Only thing seperating them being how well they control there emotions, use their time wisely and stay disciplined about their analysis ? Depending on who the IM is and what type of positions they favor/more familier with there able to play those positions just as strong as a super GM (2700+) would !What do you guys think of this theory ?
I understand you mean from a technical point of view, and you explain the difference by other factors (psychology, nerves...). It might be the case in some games or in some positions, but I doubt non-technical factors only could account for a skill difference of 200 points (maybe 50, maybe 100 ?)
That makes more since for amatures I think like why a 1600 loses to 1700 even though there both Class B fro experts and the above it might be the diffrence for 50 or it might be completely vice-versa.
Only thing seperating them being how well they control there emotions, use their time wisely and stay disciplined about their analysis ? Depending on who the IM is and what type of positions they favor/more familier with there able to play those positions just as strong as a super GM (2700+) would !What do you guys think of this theory ?