Who Will Dethrone Magnus When the Time Comes?

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YANQUI_UXO

I'd say Fabiano Caruana - another two years and he will be ready.

paulafsil
YANQUI_UXO wrote:

I'd say Fabiano Caruana - another two years and he will be ready.

He is good indeed.

shmuly87

My prediction is it will happen much sooner than you think. I think that as time goes on, the average life expectancy of a top 10 rating diminishes.

Chicken_Monster

I would love to see Kasparov come out of retirement and challenge Carlsen. I wonder if he would do it for the right amount of money, and if Carlsen would accept. I wonder who would prevail. This has probably been debated ad nauseum.

fabelhaft

"I wonder who would prevail. This has probably been debated ad nauseum"

There's not much to debate, Kasparov was 2812 when he retired ten years ago and would play on a considerably lower level today. His final event was the maybe best result of his last three years, and still that was "only" good enough to share first with Topalov, i.e. the type of result that in Carlsen's case would mean complaints about how unimpressive he is etc. But then the demands are a bit higher on Carlsen :-)

fabelhaft

Kasparov's two Linares before the last one were no less representative of his last years. Even if he was the maybe greatest ever, he had dropped a bit in strength and performed below 2750:

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1 Peter Leko g HUN 2736 ** == 01 == == 10 11 7 2789

2 Vladimir Kramnik g RUS 2807 == ** == == 1= == 1= 7 2777

3 Viswanathan Anand g IND 2753 10 == ** 0= 1= == =1 6½ 2758

4 Garry Kasparov g RUS 2847 == == 1= ** 1= == 0= 6½ 2742

5 Ruslan Ponomariov g UKR 2734 == 0= 0= 0= ** 11 == 5½ 2703

6 Francisco Vallejo Pons g ESP 2629 01 == == == 00 ** == 5 2693

7 Teimour Radjabov g AZE 2624 00 0= =0 1= == == ** 4½ 2664

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1 Vladimir Kramnik g RUS 2777 ** =1 == == 1= == == 7 2780

2 Peter Leko g HUN 2722 =0 ** == 1= == 1= == 6½ 2762

3 Garry Kasparov g RUS 2831 == == ** == == == 1= 6½ 2743

4 Teimour Radjabov g AZE 2656 == 0= == ** == 01 =1 6 2744

5 Veselin Topalov g BUL 2735 0= == == == ** =1 == 6 2730

6 Alexei Shirov g ESP 2736 == 0= == 10 =0 ** == 5 2673

7 Francisco Vallejo Pons g ESP 2663 == == 0= =0 == == ** 5 2685

ifoody2

mikhail tal will come back from the deads and bust carlsen

Suman3

well it'll be good ol' vishy Anand i guess....

TheRocketKing

caruana or aronian

NewArdweaden

I think the challenger is now just learning the rules of the game.

Superqueen500
TheRocketKing wrote:

caruana or aronian

LOOOOOOOOL Aronian? I'm sorry to inform you that you are mentally challenged. Anand has more of a chance than him. The idea of Aronian beating Carlsen in a set of matches is completely absurd. Do you even think he's going to make it past the candidates? He chokes every time he plays a big tournament. Aronian ONLY plays Carlsen to DRAW or LOSE. There's no fire between them. Aronian's score against Carlsen for the past few years is terrible. Carlsen - Aronian matches aren't a back and forth like Carlsen - Caruana. Even if Carlsen wins more often than Caruana does, Caruana still has a chance, whereas Aronian just can't win. When he gets an advantage he chokes like a patzer because he's a coward.

camberfoil

That was a very unnecessarily mean answer.

Thunder_Penguin

Samuel Sevian :)

Thunder_Penguin

Or some other very strong youth.

macer75
camberfoil wrote:

That was a very unnecessarily mean answer.

Some people are unnecessarily mean, others are unnecessarily nice... so what? We do lots of unnecessary things each day.

minor7b5

Vishy Anand. This year. There's no way Carlsen stands a chance with Anand's match experience.

paulafsil
Superqueen500 wrote:
TheRocketKing wrote:

caruana or aronian

LOOOOOOOOL Aronian? I'm sorry to inform you that you are mentally challenged. Anand has more of a chance than him. The idea of Aronian beating Carlsen in a set of matches is completely absurd. Do you even think he's going to make it past the candidates? He chokes every time he plays a big tournament. Aronian ONLY plays Carlsen to DRAW or LOSE. There's no fire between them. Aronian's score against Carlsen for the past few years is terrible. Carlsen - Aronian matches aren't a back and forth like Carlsen - Caruana. Even if Carlsen wins more often than Caruana does, Caruana still has a chance, whereas Aronian just can't win. When he gets an advantage he chokes like a patzer because he's a coward.

And I thought I was a fan of magnus...

minor7b5
Mersaphe wrote:
minor7b5 wrote:

Vishy Anand. This year. There's no way Carlsen stands a chance with Anand's match experience.

That's exactly what people were saying in 2013.

Indeed. And it holds just as true today.

camberfoil
minor7b5 wrote:
Mersaphe wrote:
minor7b5 wrote:

Vishy Anand. This year. There's no way Carlsen stands a chance with Anand's match experience.

That's exactly what people were saying in 2013.

Indeed. And it holds just as true today.

I, personally, think that Anand's loss to Carlsen was much like Kasparov's loss to Deep Blue - he was overly cautious. Now that he is more familiar with Carlsen's style and knows "what he's made of", if you will, he may be able to usurp his throne come November. Also, Carlsen seemed a little skittish about playing in Sochi, so that may adversely affect Carlsen's play. We shall see the outcome this November...

varelse1

Justin Bieber.

Justin Bieber pwns EVERTHING, punks!