Helpmate in 5 - pls help :-)

The best I can do is in 6 (White) moves...

1...Kh7 2.Ne4 e5 3.Nxd6 e4 4.Nxf7 e3 5.Ng5+ Kh8 6.f7 e2 7.Be5#

or..
1...Kh7 2.Bc1 bxc1=B 3.Nd5 Bh6 4.Ne7 Bg7 5.fxg7 f6 6.g8=Q+ Kh6 7.Qg6#

It's difficult to even see final mate positions never mind get the pieces into position in the number of moves allowed!

Thanks a lot for trying :-) I can't see any solutions here, but it should be :-)

Anyone else?

I'll see if problemiste can find it, been looking for a while, nothing yet.

Ah, got it:

The other one:

Ra1++ i don't understand

• It's a helpmate, Black helps white to mate black

Well done rooperi but what is 'problemiste' ?

I was closer than I realised (post #2) with the second solution...

1...Kh7 2.Bc1 bxc1=B 3.Nd5 Bh6 4.Ne7 Bg7 5.fxg7 f6 6.g8=Q+ Kh6 7.Qg6#

instead of...
1... Kh7 2. Bc1 bxc1=B 3. Nd5 Rg2 4. Ne7 Rg7 5. fxg7 Bh6 6. g8=Q# 

Ingenious puzzle!

Problemiste is problem software, with a huge collection of puzzles.

Can do mate in x, selfmate, helpmate etc.

The free version has some limitations, but still good functionality

[edit] if you compose your own, it's an essential tool looking for flaws, duals etc.

Thanks rooperi , I havn't come across that before - I might give it a try.  One of my ambitions in chess is to compose chess problems of my own but the really hard type.

Anybody wanna try this, also 2 solutions:

Fadil ABDURAHMANOVIC
Mat 1979
3° Prize
In 2 solution
h#3

Nice :-) Thank you rooperi!