That's cool you noticed my common defense is based on the Sicilian. Can I call it the Vickilian?
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I did a study to try to learn if the queen can be used for an effective flank attack. I'm not sure how to study every possible combination, but it seems like the queen by itself can't do much in the opening.
Same as in normal chess, the queen has too much value, so cannot be used in early exchanges. From the starting position it takes at least three moves (or 1 P + 2 Q moves) to get behind the opponent's army. But the defense is faster than the attack, giving the defender "free" plies to also develop other pieces.
However, in the 4-player version, it appears McGoohan and hitthepin have used a flank attack for some advantage. (But the game is in progress, so can't comment on it more now).
For now, I feel that queen-only flank attacks in normal 2-player is dubious. So I guess it doesn't get named after anyone. Unless we find a reckless or daring player.
Feb 7, 2018
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#4
Well, the main line of the friedmelon opening is 2. Q(1004,0), followed by 3.(5,999)+. That’s a flank attack.
Feb 7, 2018
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#6
Some more stuff about the openings:
PixelByPixel’s opening was first seen in his game with @captaintugwash, and featured the interesting chancellor maneuver 2. C(11,2).
PixelByPixel’s opening was first seen in his game with @captaintugwash, and featured the interesting chancellor maneuver 2. C(11,2).
Feb 7, 2018
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#7
The Tugwash Defence was first played in hitthepin-captaintugwash, and had the follow up of 2... H(5,9)
Interestingly, this also when the HTP attack was first played, with the follow up of 2. (4,4) :)
Interestingly, this also when the HTP attack was first played, with the follow up of 2. (4,4) :)
No problem. That's why tomato started this thread. I also realized my diagram above has some missing lines. Like Q(8,11). It harasses the king, but is probably still pointless because the king can easily jump aside.
Feb 8, 2018
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#10
I’m going to share my ideas when I made my opening.
Just like the normal Reti in classical chess, 1. N(6,3) was designed to be very flexible.
Usually, I intend to play (4,4) and (5,3) at some point in the game. This ensures that White gets at least a piece of the center. This usually baddens the dark-squares bishop, so I move it backwards, usually to (8,-4). There it can jump outside the pawn chain and also defend the weak outside hawk pawn by going to (1,-11).
If Black plays (4,5) at some point, then I can play for a (3,4) advance, much like in a queen’s pawn game in classical.
Some long term possible ideas include control the 5-file (after (5,4), the center file is ripe for opening) and/or persistent queenside pressure, where the pawns are unblocked and very flexible.
These are just some ideas when I came up with 1. N(6,3). Hope this helps whoever plays it!
Just like the normal Reti in classical chess, 1. N(6,3) was designed to be very flexible.
Usually, I intend to play (4,4) and (5,3) at some point in the game. This ensures that White gets at least a piece of the center. This usually baddens the dark-squares bishop, so I move it backwards, usually to (8,-4). There it can jump outside the pawn chain and also defend the weak outside hawk pawn by going to (1,-11).
If Black plays (4,5) at some point, then I can play for a (3,4) advance, much like in a queen’s pawn game in classical.
Some long term possible ideas include control the 5-file (after (5,4), the center file is ripe for opening) and/or persistent queenside pressure, where the pawns are unblocked and very flexible.
These are just some ideas when I came up with 1. N(6,3). Hope this helps whoever plays it!
I look forward to being white so I can claim the Tugwash attack with a hawk move, probably the kingside one.
ANd I really look forward to the "Four Hawks" game where both players develop the hawks before moving anything else.
Feb 8, 2018
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#12
Maybe we should name it “the captain attack” or something so your two openings are not confused.
I've also opened as black with both hawk moves, so how do we know which is which?
Feb 8, 2018
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#14
Well, the kings hawk move is the Tugwash defence. What do you wish to call the other hawk move?
The queen's hawk move.
It's a black move, so "defence".
"counterattack" moves are another possible choice for black- not every black move must be a defense- "game" and "system" are also choices, too. Counter gambits are also very interesting.
Infinite Chess Official Openings
King's pawn opening 1.(5,4) [Theory: 1...(5,5) 2.N(6,3)]
King's Gambit 2.(6,4)
Scandanaviary Scandinavian+@Naviary=this opening. 1...(4,5) This is probably pretty good because after 2. (5,4)x(4,5) Qx(4,5) 3. N(3,3) the queen can go anywhere on that line.
HTP Defense @hitthepin 1...N(6,6)
Queen's pawn opening 1.(4,4) [Theory:1...(4,5)]
Queens Gambit 2.(3,4)
Queen's Pawn opening: King's knight defense 1...N(6,6)
HTP attack 1. N(6,3) modeled off the Reti @hitthepin [Theory: 1...(4,5)2.(4,4)]
Htp attack: Bdf Variation 1...N(3,6) modeled off the Black Mustang variation of the Reti.
The Tugwash Defence 1... H(8,2) a very "hyper modern" choice, getting the hawk out early but no fighting for the center @CaptainTugwash [Theory (5,4/4,4/3,4) 2.H(5,9)]
Vickilian Defence 1. (5,4) (3,5) Basically the Sicilian @Vickalin [Theory: 2.N(6,3)]
Vickilian Defense: Center Game 2.(4,4)
Vickilian Defense: Center Game, Mako Countergambit @Mako_Cat formerly @Noisy_Echo 2.(4,4) (4,5)
PixelbyPixel attack Q(-2,-5) @PixelbyPixel [Theory: 1...(5,4/4,4/3,4) 2.C(11,2)]
And the Friedmelon Opening 1.Q(4,0) @Friedmelon [Theory:1...(5,4/4,4/3,4) 2.Q(1004,0) (5,4/4,4/3,4) Q(5999,0)]
1... H(-2,12) The Queen's Hawk Defense [Theory: 2.(3,4/4,4/5,4) H(4,9)]
1.(3,4) The Tomato System @HorribleTomato [Theory: H(1,12) (4,4)]
Tomato System: Symmetrical Variation 1...(3,5)
Tomato System: Symmetrical Variation: Wayward Queen Attack 2.Q(-17,21)
4 Hawks Game: 1.H(1,-3) H(1,12) 2.H(8,-3) H(8,12) [theory:3.H(4,0) H(4,9) 4.H(5,0) H(5,9) 4 Hawks Game: Center Variation/Main Line]
4 Hawks Game: Edge Variation 3.H(1,0) H(1,9) 4.H(8,0) H(8,9)
4 Hawks Game: Guard Variation @RyanChessMaster1 1. H(1, -3) H(1, 12) 2. H(8, -3) H(8, 12) 3. H(1, 0) H(1, 9) 4. H(8, 0) H(8, 9)
Halebopp Attack: 1.C(8,3) @HaleBopp2017 [theory: 1...(5,5) 2. (4,3)]
Cobra Opening 1.(8,3) @Cobra91 [theory: 1...(5,5) 2.(2,3)]
Bala's System @balashukla0761 1. (5,3)
Fly Hawks Fly Attack @Fly_Eagles_Fly 1. H(8,-3)
Queen's Domination @Naviary 1. Q(4,-7)
The Gyrados attack @gyrados06(7,3)
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