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LXIVC

The same thing happens to me.

HGMuller

The winboard.nl server seems to be up and running. I could connect two WInBoard running on the same computer through it (using the default password). The second p2p that starts on the same computer leads to an error message that the port is already in use, but that is only for listening to incoming calls on your own computer. So it would still work for making the outgoing call to winboard.nl, and you can ignore the message.

Perhaps the server somehow still thinks that your password is still in use, because a connecton died silently, and it thinks one user using that password is still connected. (Although I don't think this is likely; when two people get connected, and one of them disconnects, the server then disconnects both, and knows the password is available again.) 'You could try another password.

HGMuller

Btw, BattleChess might find it funny to take a look at http://hgm.nubati.net/variants/magician .

LXIVC

I just tried again, and I am still unable to start a game using winboard.nl. I've tried using different passwords, and that makes no difference.

Ace569er

I'll try again later. I'll use the laptop and PC again. I was just trying two baords on the same PC. I did try nothing but now passcodes tho. Several of them. It might be an error on my part. Yet LXIXC was able to connect to himself the other day & can't now. So not sure. I'll try the defult pass too, I guess.

Ace569er

I still can't get them together. Would you be willing to try to connect with me, Muller? When ever you have the free time. To see what it may be.

HGMuller

OK, I am connected to winboard.nl in 'variant custom' with the default password ("Have fun, have WinBoard!"). I will be going to bed soon, though; it is 11:30 pm here.

HGMuller

Well, there seems to be something wrong with the server. I could not connect now through it. But when I logged on to the VPS where it is running, it was there in the task list. So I figured it must have crashed, and killed it. But then, when I tried to restart it, it kept complaining that the port was already occupied.

So it seems the entire OS there is sick. It is too late for me to address that problem today; I will have a look at it tomorrow.

BattleChessGN18

Hey, HGMuller,

Thanks so much for creating that page for me. Rather than "finding it funny", I'm actually deeply flattered someone took so much time to acknowledge my variant.

I hate to slightly disappoint you, however: after your material point analysis, I have updated the rules to the Magician's Death Match; since I've come to learn that the High-Priestess is slightly more powerful than the Queen. Also, if you remember, I added another promotional piece, the Telepath.

I will be posting them within the next two months. But they're hardly too different than what the rules are now, so fortunately, it's probably not going to be too hectic for you; I hope. haha

ebillgo

This is a game of epic proportion. To put it in perspective, a chess game based on Xiangqi ( CHinese chess ) was invented with 7 players  ( representing the seven warring  kingdoms in ancient China). The game did not have a good following and now just remains a historical curiosity.

Ace569er
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BattleChessGN18

Personally, Ace, I wouldn't make anymore changes (aside perhaps from the young royals: Prince and Princess).

I think the Armored knight, for the few of us who played, was valued for being so powerful. All you've done now is reduced it to another hawk piece.

Ace569er

I get were you're coming from, I do. Plus I do really want to stop modding. Just I'm sick of playing myself. So somethings are harder for me to see. Untill I play a few games. Which inspired me to play myself some more too. While rewatching our first games. To see how much both you and LXIVC focus on making those your primary protecters. For good reason. To weak a piece, is normaly a broken piece, unless most game pieces are equaly weak.. Yet too powerfull, can be as well for the same reason.

Both halfs split from the armoured knight. The new armoured knight & holy knight, are far more useful than a color bound hawk, or even the elephants. The issue is they gaurded EVERYTHING around them. Making them untouchable unless you mess up big. Also no effort is required to have them protect. Because they can move to any close square. Were every other piece in the game but gambit's and royals can only do a Wazir or Ferz move. Yet never both. This was a large focus in my game disign.

I originaly had the tower and carinals be rooks and bishop with their jumps. I reduced their range because they made the rook & bishop no longer vauled till the tower & cardinal died. I just made most my changes, non public.To try not to do what I'm doing now. Still modding & fixxing stuff.

I saw they hold more value than any piece but the queen. So of course he is going to be vauled for his power. Because his power is not on par with any other piece in the game, but the royals.  It's even stronger than the old snake. While being valued more than the stronger Jester. Plus you get two of them. That really is too powerful. I actually thought you would agree on that one. More then the prince/ss. Guess I was wrong.

On that note, that is the original move set for the armoured knight(well really it had the new holy knights moveset). As for the princess I am in debating if I want to give her the pheonix movement you showed prior, or as I just showed. I just figured I could use some more sliders, to go with all the leapers.  I have come to realize, actual chess players, can learn piece moves with out any real trouble, in game. And here I thought there were too many for most to remember easily.

Ace569er

Does reading that make you feel any different, or do you still prefer it how it was? I'm curious what you think too, LXIVC. Since you play it as well.

LXIVC

I like the change to the enhanced knights, but I don't know about the prince and princess.

I suspect the new moves might be too strong. It might be better to reduce their range by one.

Perhaps the princess could be BW, or BD, and the prince RF, or RA. Maybe keep their old moves and give them a non-capturing ADN move.

The only way to really know if it works is to try it.

The winboard.nl server appears to be working now, but I don't think I have time to play yet.

Ace569er
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Ace569er

I do also like that the horse change gives me three color bound pieces. The bishops, hawks, and wizards. As well as three pieces that will change color each move. The knight, armoured knight, and the cobras.

So there would be 10 types that can leap, 10 types that can not.

OR

5 walkers(22pieces), 5 sliders(7pieces), 7 leapers(14 pieces), & 3 sliding leapers(5pieces).


BattleChessGN18

As a reminder, I found nothing wrong with the original Cobra piece, let alone the Armored knight piece.

^-^

And, the modified armored Knight is not color bound: it works exactly as a regular knight does, where, upon each movement it makes, it changes to the opposite-colored square. The only difference is that you aded 4 more squares for it to do this.

LXIVC

If the princess could only move as a bishop it would be unable to exit its starting square. I like the idea of both pieces moving as queens, and capturing differently.

Ace569er

I acaully said the hawk was color bound. I took 4 squares from the armoured knight and gave them to soom nights. to make the holy knight yes. So yes I already had the 3 color bound. Just now have three that switch. I said that....So I see you like that pieces to be strong.

No input on the best of the 4 variations of the prince/ss? (two basic sliders & two noncapture/capture sliders)

I just like having to give more thought as to placement. In this game you tend to protect with the W/F move. While attack with the ranged. Them plus jack and gambits let pawns be placed anywhere while being double protected. Even without them. You can almost do this.