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Cheat accounts would be getting banned because not enough moves match the computer Laughing

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Sunshiny wrote:

Multiple accounts would continue to be a problem. Cheaters would have to be banned for making multiple accounts to constantly cheat people wanting a fair game.

I don't get what you are saying. The situation woul be the same as it is when multiple accounts are concerned, but that isn't an argument against "marking".

claudelejuen

Cheating is really unnecessary - win or lose it really does not matter

Chess is a game played for fun and some conversation. Yes one likes to win

but a lose is no great shakes. What I object to is those who will not chat

Perhaps the idea of some sort of icon next to their names might be a help but even then - they may well have learnt their lesson and consideration could be given to removing such an icon after a period. Cheat again and your out. A change of user name and a new account may well styme such a move, but the experts should be able to sort this out. An experts as we all know is. X the unknown factor - a spurt - a drip under pressure - Smile if you can

red-lady

They should leave a door open, I agree Bron

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jan48 wrote:

i thinking cheater don't have fun and  stop play by himself

Chess.com have no more working to this

You don't know people.

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Cnacnel wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:

Multiple accounts would continue to be a problem. Cheaters would have to be banned for making multiple accounts to constantly cheat people wanting a fair game.

I don't get what you are saying. The situation woul be the same as it is when multiple accounts are concerned, but that isn't an argument against "marking".

Multiple accounts could be created for other reasons and still be labeled a cheater. Someone purposely making multiple accounts to cheat games from fair players would need to be banned because the symbol doesn't work as a deterrent. It circumvents the symbol to protect fair players from the cheaters.

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Sunshiny wrote:
Cnacnel wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:

Multiple accounts would continue to be a problem. Cheaters would have to be banned for making multiple accounts to constantly cheat people wanting a fair game.

I don't get what you are saying. The situation woul be the same as it is when multiple accounts are concerned, but that isn't an argument against "marking".

Multiple accounts could be created for other reasons and still be labeled a cheater. Someone purposely making multiple accounts to cheat games from fair players would need to be banned because the symbol doesn't work as a deterrent. It circumvents the symbol to protect fair players from the cheaters.

No no, the cheater mark should be only for people using computer engines in games, not those creating multiple accounts.

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?page=17 - this is the similar idea, which has already been implemented a long time ago and it works. People who are banned as well as premium members are the only ones who can access "dungeons".

rooperi

Bowerick made a post joking about cheating.

(he said he uses an engine for 4 moves per game)

Apparently the powers that be took him seriously.

Geez, NOBODY takes him seriously.

jposthuma

I think that if chess.com just puts an icon next to the cheater's handle, it will attract more people to use conputer engines. You do realize how difficult it can be to figure out if somebody is cheating or not? Also, imagine how hard it would be to figure this out for 10,000 people. O_O I think people SHOULD be banned for cheating. Why cheat? What do you gain out of it? Does it make you happy because you beat somebody? (By cheating, so you really didn't beat them.)

If you want to go cheat, just go to ICC. (I think they allow cheaters, but make them play seperately.)

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Cnacnel wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:

Multiple accounts could be created for other reasons and still be labeled a cheater. Someone purposely making multiple accounts to cheat games from fair players would need to be banned because the symbol doesn't work as a deterrent. It circumvents the symbol to protect fair players from the cheaters.

No no, the cheater mark should be only for people using computer engines in games, not those creating multiple accounts.

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?page=17 - this is the similar idea, which has already been implemented a long time ago and it works. People who are banned as well as premium members are the only ones who can access "dungeons".

Aren't people with multiple accounts currently banned for cheating? Having the symbol would change that. Having multiple accounts would only incur a symbol, unless it is used to cheat people of a fair game. Those that use multiple accounts to cheat people of a fair game would be banned, since as i stated, it circumvents the symbol.

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I think if the symbol was to be used at all, cheaters wouldn't be allowed to play any games except against those they've befriended. They also wouldn't be allowed in tournaments, vote chess games, and team matches.

If they make friends, it should mention that they're a cheater. If they become a cheater after befriending others, a message would be needed to sent to them. Another reminder might be necessary before starting a game with a cheater.

The multiple account abuser that gets around the symbol would be banned. 

eddysallin

u have got to be kidding,allow cheaters to play.Why ?because u may like them...they are nice or good people.THEY PROBABLY ARE! Cheating defeats the whole point of chess. Here we converse about puzzles,a line of some opening or related issues-but we do so believing each is giving his or her opinon. Too take a" I"ll win no matter what" approach belittles  the many hours and study many put in to get better at the game.In poker the deck is random..golf relies on each players fair play.Chess.com is a corp.that has a self intrest in keeping chess players ...i.e. money. U get your self banned u have only one person to blame. As for allowing symbols for cheaters. Let see ,i'm not cheating in this game ,or i'm only cheating at certain points...opening,end-game. Not workable.Theres other sites and if u check the links,many thousands have a ban sign.Sorry any-one leaves the site but how about all those chess games lost....ratings or tourns. rounds ?

rooperi

I agree, cheaters should go.

But the cheater label should be be for people actually caught cheating, not for joking about cheating.

If joking about it breaks some rule, then fine, take the appropriate action, but a ban with a cheater label? That's a bit much......

red-lady

I don't think they ban you for joking, rooperi. They could close your account if you are too wild, but they wouldn't put your name on the cheating list in that case.

bronsteinitz

I think they were jealous because he plays music on a warthhog.

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red-lady wrote:

I don't think they ban you for joking, rooperi. They could close your account if you are too wild, but they wouldn't put your name on the cheating list in that case.

You think they had the time for a proper analysis and evaluation before banning? Especially if he was cheating for the odd move it would be impossible to tell.

They just banned him on what he said, joking or not.

bronsteinitz

Correct scott

bronsteinitz

So we are stuck with the hurt-heal threads...

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bronsteinitz wrote:

So we are stuck with the hurt-heal threads...

Those are a hoot.

Scottrf

Actually Kohai said the games were checked, but if he was cheating for the odd move here and there you wouldn't spot it. If more then it's very strange they can ban him in half hour yet others take a couple of years and then get banned.

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