PLUS I'M NEW I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS BULL CRAP AND NOW I HAVE A NEW ENEMY
Correction...now you have lots of new enemies, because you're being an a$$hat to one of the forums' most respected contributors.
PLUS I'M NEW I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS BULL CRAP AND NOW I HAVE A NEW ENEMY
Correction...now you have lots of new enemies, because you're being an a$$hat to one of the forums' most respected contributors.
PLUS I'M NEW I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS BULL CRAP AND NOW I HAVE A NEW ENEMY
It's apparent that you don't know much. I would suggest that you check out batgirl's many previous posts to see what constitutes a relevant, interesting, well-informed, polite cogent comment.
Wow, I remember the Chess Mate but I never got over there. Some of the names of the chess players mentioned were ones that I played in Detroit tournaments of the Detroit Metro League. I discovered a chess column written by John Bult in the Detroit Times in the late 1950s and eventually I began cutting them out and saving them (they are gone now). I remember I was playing in a chess tournament in Detroit in 1966, I think, and I asked an onlooker if he would play me. He appeared to be about 60 years old, I think he said his last name was Stein, and I mentioned that one of my favorite players was Dus-Khotimirsky and he said that he had played Dus-Khotimirsky. And all these years later, I wonder who this fellow, last name Stein, I believe, was who played Dus-Khotimirsky. A Russian emigre living in Detroit? I never saw any mention of a player last name Stein living in (or visiting) Detroit in 1966 or so.
David Crosby, if I am not mistaken, agreed to be a sperm donor for a lesbian couple, but for the life of me, I can't remember who.
That would be Melissa Etheridge and spouse.
My favorite version of Both Sides Now is by a French woman on acoustic guitar named Anne Legras, who used to post her songs for free, but took them down years ago. This is her singing "Sailing", though ...
Here is the Anne Legras cover:
I must admit her guitar style mimics Joni's to a degree as does her vocalizations, but, to me at least, she does what most cover performers do ... she slows the song down as if it's somehow sad or dreamy...when it fact the song is a dispelling of dreams and a triumph of sorts celebrating a more mature outlook where Clouds Illusions are replaced by reality, good or bad, but at least not illusions.
Here's Joni singing Both Sides Now on Cass Eliot's TV show:
Wow, I remember the Chess Mate but I never got over there. Some of the names of the chess players mentioned were ones that I played in Detroit tournaments of the Detroit Metro League. I discovered a chess column written by John Bult in the Detroit Times in the late 1950s and eventually I began cutting them out and saving them (they are gone now). I remember I was playing in a chess tournament in Detroit in 1966, I think, and I asked an onlooker if he would play me. He appeared to be about 60 years old, I think he said his last name was Stein, and I mentioned that one of my favorite players was Dus-Khotimirsky and he said that he had played Dus-Khotimirsky. And all these years later, I wonder who this fellow, last name Stein, I believe, was who played Dus-Khotimirsky. A Russian emigre living in Detroit? I never saw any mention of a player last name Stein living in (or visiting) Detroit in 1966 or so.
I wasn't even born until December of 1973. Is Dus-Chotimirsky. still your favorite player? He was the Kiev champions several times around the turn of the 20th century and possibly most famous for having beaten both Lasker and Rubinstein, co-winners of St. Petersburg 1909, in that same tournament (though he, himself only finished 13th). I know him best from my research on Prince Dadian of Mingelia who Duz, a friend of Tschigorin, had only spiteful things to say.
Here is the Anne Legras cover:
I must admit her guitar style mimics Joni's to a degree as does her vocalizations, but, to me at least, she does what most cover performers do ... she slows the song down as if it's somehow sad or dreamy...when it fact the song is a dispelling of dreams and a triumph of sorts celebrating a more mature outlook where Clouds Illusions are replaced by reality, good or bad, but at least not illusions.
Here's Joni singing Both Sides Now on Cass Eliot's TV show:
Hmmm...that Anne Legras cover video is a somewhat slower tempo than the one I have, but I take your meaning. I guess for me, this song is nostalgic, so the way it is covered works for me. The underlying assumption for me is that seeing things from both sides requires experience and time to absorb/reflect. Some 20-something (especially nowadays) is far less likely to see the perspective of this song.
Joni Mitchell's version is also great. I tend to like acoustic versions, and rarely like versions with backup singers, orchestral accompaniments, etc.
Here is the Anne Legras cover:
I must admit her guitar style mimics Joni's to a degree as does her vocalizations, but, to me at least, she does what most cover performers do ... she slows the song down as if it's somehow sad or dreamy...when it fact the song is a dispelling of dreams and a triumph of sorts celebrating a more mature outlook where Clouds Illusions are replaced by reality, good or bad, but at least not illusions.
Here's Joni singing Both Sides Now on Cass Eliot's TV show:
Hmmm...that Anne Legras cover video is a somewhat slower tempo than the one I have, but I take your meaning. I guess for me, this song is nostalgic, so the way it is covered works for me. The underlying assumption for me is that seeing things from both sides requires experience and time to absorb/reflect. Some 20-something (especially nowadays) is far less likely to see the perspective of this song.
Joni Mitchell's version is also great. I tend to like acoustic versions, and rarely like versions with backup singers, orchestral accompaniments, etc.
Joni, in 1966, claimed she got the idea for the song in 1959- she would have been 16 then. She probably wrote it in 1964 when she was 21. You can hear her talking in this bootleg from the Second Fret in Philadelphia, 1966. Right after she wraps up "The Circle Game," at around 26:00 she starts singing 'From Both Sides Now" as she terms it and follows with her story on the heels of "Urge for Going." This is a fantastic album created from a radio recording.
Joni, in 1966, claimed she got the idea for the song in 1959- she would have been 16 then. She probably wrote it in 1964 when she was 21. You can hear her talking in this bootleg from the Second Fret in Philadelphia, 1966. Right after she wraps up "The Circle Game," at around 26:00 she starts singing 'From Both Sides Now" as she terms it and follows with her story on the heels of "Urge for Going." This is a fantastic album created from a radio recording.
Joni Mitchell is far from a typical 20-something .
and i now know i'm never gonna be respected by anyone because of what i said to ya'll
Most likely only 20 people read this thread so whatever you did here, stays here.
sorry for over Reacting batgirl i just have anger issues and im new soo i wont bother u a gain srry
I'm not upset with you in the least but I appreciate and admire your choice to apologize. That takes gumption and is a sign of good character.
I think at 21 I was still learning to tie my shoes.
I had just joined the Air Force.
and your career as just starting to "take off?"
David Crosby, if I am not mistaken, agreed to be a sperm donor for a lesbian couple, but for the life of me, I can't remember who.
That would be Melissa Etheridge and spouse.
My favorite version of Both Sides Now is by a French woman on acoustic guitar named Anne Legras, who used to post her songs for free, but took them down years ago. This is her singing "Sailing", though
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