chess com is using bot accounts to sabotage players.

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And why on earth would chess.com want to do this?
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#23 I highly doubt they’d risk getting exposed like that, it wouldn’t be that hard to prove they were using bots if they were. Also I feel like most people when getting tilted from losing want to just quit the game, not to buy a membership
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It's not their job to do that I suppose. Might not be a legitimate action.

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That’s a big accusation and if true then shameful be them all but do you have any evidence of this happening?

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“Using bots on a suspicious player comes at the end of the investigation. Usually they have a pretty good idea about the person by then.”

Er, do they do this?
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Afraid of bots? Throw em waters

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Hmm interesting forum

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I wanted to play chess & someone or something was already making the moves. I was watching myself play although it wasn't me who even played + it put my chess level at my wrong level..

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Lorandfokt wrote:

I wanted to play chess & someone or something was already making the moves. I was watching myself play although it wasn't me who even played + it put my chess level at my wrong level..

You should record it next time

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no, but this is untrue, as chess.com will refund your rating, if the opponent cheats, or is a bot.

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treatb59 wrote:
I got suspicious about them tracking my ip to force me to play ai accounts. The games are always the same. Against no name accounts. No photos. Brand new accounts made this year. You can tell real players by making random moves. My last game. Per usual. To sabotage my rating. Their timer magically goes up. Spending .01 seconds a move. Which is inhumanly possible when you make a random move. I have 10 seconds on my clock and they have less than a second. And my moves all of a sudden start taking 3-4 seconds a piece. These games start happening when i start making check mates against clearly real players.
Then the games will always be the same openings. Over and over in a cycle. Since chess com bans these posts. They are supporting this and hiding it from players.
My expectation is this is a software to test for cheating. However, they are also sabotaging my games by doing this and ratings shouldnt be allowed to change. They set you up with a series of winnable games after to reciprocate the points. But i have to report hundreds of bot accounts a week.
Ive been on here for over 10 years. Its ridiculous. Lost alot of respect for chess com and can barely enjoy the game anymore.

Clear exlpilanation

A.there pre-moving

B. You have lag

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bossybwudx wrote:
xtreme2020 wrote:
And why on earth would chess.com want to do this?

Could be for many different reasons. 1 is to make players feel like they need to purchase a membership.

This is just my assumption....but I just answered just to let you know that there could be many reasons why.

Ah yes, “If you don’t want to play against bot accounts, buy a membership!!!”

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wait, wat?

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So funny and so dumb

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mf410827 wrote:
treatb59 wrote:
I got suspicious about them tracking my ip to force me to play ai accounts. The games are always the same. Against no name accounts. No photos. Brand new accounts made this year. You can tell real players by making random moves. My last game. Per usual. To sabotage my rating. Their timer magically goes up. Spending .01 seconds a move. Which is inhumanly possible when you make a random move. I have 10 seconds on my clock and they have less than a second. And my moves all of a sudden start taking 3-4 seconds a piece. These games start happening when i start making check mates against clearly real players..

"guess who didn't take his pills today"
You got your Soma (Brave New World)

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KoffeBurk wrote:
mf410827 wrote:
treatb59 wrote:
I got suspicious about them tracking my ip to force me to play ai accounts. The games are always the same. Against no name accounts. No photos. Brand new accounts made this year. You can tell real players by making random moves. My last game. Per usual. To sabotage my rating. Their timer magically goes up. Spending .01 seconds a move. Which is inhumanly possible when you make a random move. I have 10 seconds on my clock and they have less than a second. And my moves all of a sudden start taking 3-4 seconds a piece. These games start happening when i start making check mates against clearly real players..

"guess who didn't take his pills today"
You got your Soma (Brave New World)

Why are we reviving this forum?

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Thepasswordis1234 wrote:

Its probably your mouse I tried my mom's mouse, and I lost a bullet game because I ran out of time

Was this the mouse?

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i look at my game archive and I am a bot?!

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treatb59 wrote:
I got suspicious about them tracking my ip to force me to play ai accounts. The games are always the same. Against no name accounts. No photos. Brand new accounts made this year. You can tell real players by making random moves. My last game. Per usual. To sabotage my rating. Their timer magically goes up. Spending .01 seconds a move. Which is inhumanly possible when you make a random move. I have 10 seconds on my clock and they have less than a second. And my moves all of a sudden start taking 3-4 seconds a piece. These games start happening when i start making check mates against clearly real players.
Then the games will always be the same openings. Over and over in a cycle. Since chess com bans these posts. They are supporting this and hiding it from players.
My expectation is this is a software to test for cheating. However, they are also sabotaging my games by doing this and ratings shouldnt be allowed to change. They set you up with a series of winnable games after to reciprocate the points. But i have to report hundreds of bot accounts a week.
Ive been on here for over 10 years. Its ridiculous. Lost alot of respect for chess com and can barely enjoy the game anymore.

What I have noticed is how some of the bots are playing very "weirdly". The one I've especially noticed doing that is Li-bot .... supposedly 2000 rated but actually more like 1500. If I were to guess, they are using these bots to try to get a picture of how people of different ratings react to strange or unusual moves. One possible reason for this is that they may be trying to develop an algorithm that estimates people's ratings more accurately. This is only a suggestion and it may be that Ches.com's thinking isn't creative in that way. But I still think it's a strong positive. I like playing a bot that plays rather human-like moves. It does make it very easy to win but it's good training.

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Having said that, it's definitely possible for a user to hook in an engine to their playing input, which would only take moderate programming skills to do it.