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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto power and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up we get a safer world for everyone

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

BigChessplayer665
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Mid-KnightRider

We are spending our tax money on Europe's war, while Europe isn't doing a thing to help, they hardly pay taxes for defense, so they have free medical services, if we pay for defense, and they medical services, that's fine with me, but that is not happening, this is a toxic relationship for the US that we need to get out of.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

Mid-KnightRider

I would recommend you listen to Daryl Cooper's podcast, he has a very interesting section on Ukraine.

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We are spending our tax money on Europe's war, while Europe isn't doing a thing to help, they hardly pay taxes for defense, so they have free medical services, if we pay for defense, and they medical services, that's fine with me, but that is not happening, this is a toxic relationship for the US that we need to get out of.

We aren't you know what we are spending to much money on though those american bases that should be given to Europe oh wait... We arnt going to do that I bet that maintenance is just as expensive

It's actually more cost efficient to support Ukraine then not we will pay a great deal more later so yes we are already getting something out of it Taco is just being greedy

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

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We are spending our tax money on Europe's war, while Europe isn't doing a thing to help, they hardly pay taxes for defense, so they have free medical services, if we pay for defense, and they medical services, that's fine with me, but that is not happening, this is a toxic relationship for the US that we need to get out of.

We aren't you know what we are spending to much money on though those american bases that should be given to Europe oh wait... We arnt going to do that I bet that maintenance is just as expensive

It's actually more cost efficient to support Ukraine then not we will pay a great deal more later so yes we are already getting something out of it Taco is just being greedy

It is not cost efficient to give Ukraine a million dollar missle so that they can get rid of a one-thousand dollar missle. Why should we give our bases to Europe, we built them, and paid for them, and maintnence them, and arm them. At this point we should just give Europe a 3 trillion dollar check each year. As I said id we pay for defense and them medicare, that's fine with me, but the cot of livving is sky high in the US because we pay way too much taxes, and all the money goes to Europe. This a toxic one sided relationship that we need ot get ut of.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

BigChessplayer665
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

Also it's not just debt the political sphere is too costly to lose

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

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