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forked_again
Savage47 wrote:
btickler wrote:
Savage47 wrote:

There is a substantial amount of precedent (and actual written law) regarding forum posts. I'm completely right regardless of your understanding of it. 

Given that you are the only person here espousing this notion, perhaps it's actually your understanding that is faulty?  Just a thought.  Feel free to post some actual facts that support your position.

Given that there's only person posting to the contrary and that person doesn't even claim to be from the US, I don't see the need to. 

Bottom line, I'm right. I'm not here to argue, I'm here to educate the mods that altering my posts was not only ethically wrong but in fact illegal. If I really wanted a fight I would just take it to court. 

I would much rather see the cesspool of this forum cleaned up rather than destroy it. The forum, no matter how bad it is,  is the one redeeming quality of the site.  

 

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forked_again

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forked_again

Even  if you could claim copyright, chess.com has no obligation to display your work.  Removal or modification would not be considered infringement because there is no attempt to copy reuse or profit. And you couldn't claim damages because there are none. 

Next case! 

autobunny
forked_again wrote:

Even  if you could claim copyright, chess.com has no obligation to display your work.  Removal or modification would not be considered infringement because there is no attempt too copy reuse or profit. And you couldn't claim damages because there are none. 

Next case! 

autobunny
Dustin-Cobwebs wrote:

alls well that ends well, if you want to claim ownership of your literary masterpieces, make sure to save all your work on google drive or somewhere suitable.

Yes chess.com chooses to remove content at their discretion or lack thereof 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/removal-of-forum-topics

autobunny
Dustin-Cobwebs wrote:

my eyes rolled when i saw this ....

The account is closed, though normally self-closures maintain content. So it might be a bug.

Yes but the punchline is that now the account is shown as closed for abuse!   Although obviously it was not! 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/the-bunny-has-left-the-building-nothing-to-see-here

autobunny
Dustin-Cobwebs wrote:

that’s the kind of service cheap labour provides for.

It's all clear now

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/does-chess-com-hate-bunnies

lfPatriotGames
AlCzervik wrote:

patriot, it's not just the shenanigans about play. i've had two topics about v3 failures that included a lot more than just game situations.

consider what you write for a moment. you did not like v3, but, instead of saying anything about it, you say nothing so others don't look at you wrong. perhaps if there were enough people writing about the massive fails of v3, we wouldn't be here with this "lone guy in front of the police station".

you strike me as one that never votes but complains about the pols.

if i'm wrong about you, so be it. this topic is directed to erik, anyhow. 

It's just my opinion, but I think the topic is directed at everyone who reads the forums. If it were directed at one person specifically, I would think you would contact them directly. 

The reason I didn't complain about V3 is the same reason the lone guy in front of the police station never accomplishes anything. They dont care. 

Imagine you have a favorite restaurant. You even have a favorite menu item that you usually order. Then one day the restaurant changes that item, drastically. You could complain, but nobody else is complaining, so you dont. What do you do? Me personally, I go to another restaurant that also has my favorite menu item. There they value my business, and continue providing that menu item because it sells. Now the first restaurant seems to be doing just fine even though they discontinued your favorite item. That's their right. So why would they bring that item back if very few people are complaining and they are still making money? My guess is they wont, and they will continue to ignore requests and complaints about it.

DiogenesDue
Savage47 wrote:
 

Given that there's only person posting to the contrary and that person doesn't even claim to be from the US, I don't see the need to. 

Bottom line, I'm right. I'm not here to argue, I'm here to educate the mods that altering my posts was not only ethically wrong but in fact illegal. If I really wanted a fight I would just take it to court. 

I would much rather see the cesspool of this forum cleaned up rather than destroy it. The forum, no matter how bad it is,  is the one redeeming quality of the site.  

Ummm, the *very next post* after my initial copyright law remarks said that I "beat them to it", along with a now deleted post from a Tuna sockpuppet also agreeing (quoted later).

You can take anything to court.  It would be thrown out at the first reading.

P.S. Flags here are an affectation, nothing more.  I don't need to "claim" to be from anywhere.  Arguably all nationalism is, at some level, an affectation wink.png...but that's a much larger discussion.

badenwurtca
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:

patriot, it's not just the shenanigans about play. i've had two topics about v3 failures that included a lot more than just game situations.

consider what you write for a moment. you did not like v3, but, instead of saying anything about it, you say nothing so others don't look at you wrong. perhaps if there were enough people writing about the massive fails of v3, we wouldn't be here with this "lone guy in front of the police station".

you strike me as one that never votes but complains about the pols.

if i'm wrong about you, so be it. this topic is directed to erik, anyhow. 

It's just my opinion, but I think the topic is directed at everyone who reads the forums. If it were directed at one person specifically, I would think you would contact them directly. 

The reason I didn't complain about V3 is the same reason the lone guy in front of the police station never accomplishes anything. They dont care. 

Imagine you have a favorite restaurant. You even have a favorite menu item that you usually order. Then one day the restaurant changes that item, drastically. You could complain, but nobody else is complaining, so you dont. What do you do? Me personally, I go to another restaurant that also has my favorite menu item. There they value my business, and continue providing that menu item because it sells. Now the first restaurant seems to be doing just fine even though they discontinued your favorite item. That's their right. So why would they bring that item back if very few people are complaining and they are still making money? My guess is they wont, and they will continue to ignore requests and complaints about it.

   Interesting post. This brings up the age old question of should we strive to improve things or should we just give up and just move on. I mean it could be at a restaurant or at a work-place or even at a Chess site. Needless to say each person has to make up their own mind.  

lfPatriotGames

Well that's sort of the point. Management thinks discontinuing that favorite menu item is improving things. Once you realize their idea of improvement is vastly different than your idea of improvement, you move on to what is, in your mind, an actual improvement.

AlCzervik
lfPatriotGames wrote:

Well that's sort of the point. Management thinks discontinuing that favorite menu item is improving things. Once you realize their idea of improvement is vastly different than your idea of improvement, you move on to what is, in your mind, an actual improvement.

your analogy of the restaurant changing is not an analogy at all. it is a bad comparison with no relevance.

please go back and read through the topic. most of the problems are about functionality and lack of explanation. not a restaurant deciding to not furnish your favorite meal. 

the reason i made this a forum topic instead of pm'ing erik (which is next) is because, in other topics where i have posted about site failures, other members chime in with things they have noticed, just as some have here. i think it's best to get all out in the open instead of everything being piecemeal. 

Carla-Magnusson

Al’s back!!

lfPatriotGames
AlCzervik wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:

Well that's sort of the point. Management thinks discontinuing that favorite menu item is improving things. Once you realize their idea of improvement is vastly different than your idea of improvement, you move on to what is, in your mind, an actual improvement.

your analogy of the restaurant changing is not an analogy at all. it is a bad comparison with no relevance.

please go back and read through the topic. most of the problems are about functionality and lack of explanation. not a restaurant deciding to not furnish your favorite meal. 

the reason i made this a forum topic instead of pm'ing erik (which is next) is because, in other topics where i have posted about site failures, other members chime in with things they have noticed, just as some have here. i think it's best to get all out in the open instead of everything being piecemeal. 

I think you know better than that. What do you think will happen if you try to "get all out in the open"?

Back the restaurant analogy, what do you think would happen if you complained to management about their "improvements" now that they have more customers and are making more money?

erik

Some fair criticisms! We do not have everything documented. Part of that is because the site is so complex and has so much going on (and very few people would read it), and part of it is because writing out some things exactly then gives people with bad motives the parameters to work within. Anyway, you are right, there is very little documentation outside of what you find on https://support.chess.com . 

We do try to post regular updates now of new features and changes. Latest example: https://www.chess.com/news/view/chess-com-september-update

As for not receiving responses to support requests, please privately message me the support request and time you made it and I will look into it. Our support team actually receives incredibly strong and positive feedback generally, and strives to respond to most issues within 24 hours. 
As for the limits on posting more than 3 times consecutively in a forum, that was meant to curtail the annoying behavior of constant repeaters and thread hijackers. Of course there are some curtailed legitimate use-cases which were impacted too. It’s a tough balance. Any restriction of freedoms or abilities is... a restriction. But we are trying to find a good balance. We face a LOT of challenges from attacks, trolls, harassers, and people looking to create problems. It’s just a sad part of what we do. They keep changing their attacks, and then we keep trying to react. Not a fun game. 
Finally, I’m unaware of any board shrinking issue. Please use the “Report a Bug” link in the nav bar and that will help us gather the info we need. 
Cheers!

52yrral

erik, thank  you and your staff for the tireless effort you all do to maintain this truly unique chess site!

erik
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   Erik....do you mind if I re-post your thoughts on the 3 post filter in other threads? 

Sure!

AlCzervik

now the change in settings for notes is throwing people off. 

why are the changes simply made? without, seemingly, any consideration of the members? 

explanations for changes should be a priority. otherwise, this will become another facebook-type site where others post what they had for lunch today...

mbereobong

Oh, is that why I can’t see anyone’s notes, except for my friends?

Toire

"Libelous"...are you serious?

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