Oops, there are some angry birds defending their pet theories from attack!
Evolution or not?
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May 1, 2015
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#23
If a theory has holes and I point out the holes why do I have to show an alternative? Isn't it enough to say that the theory has flaws?
May 1, 2015
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#24
The strongest fact of science? I hope you're talking about the planetary orbits and not evolution.
"The deniers" are those scumbags who refuse to be brainwashed!
May 1, 2015
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#26
Anna-Valeroius I am a guilty scum bag. I never did like brainwashing for anyone.
you have to have to have a brain first, what a shame :-)
May 1, 2015
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#28
I had hoped we could stay civil but I guess not. Evolution like other polarizing topics can bring out the worst in us all.
is someone being nasty ? didnt notice. well this evolution thingy is kinda weird. many guys who believe in it get very defensive when they encounter critics, so I think we can safely say its a balloon that's easily burst. mostly they just want to look well read and ejamacated, so they can call the "deniers" stoopid.
alex-rodriguez wrote:
Five books I have read about evolution, how it works and the evidence for it. To give you an idea for how much powerful evidence you have to deny, there was virtually no overlap. All 5 books described different evidences for evolution.
Evolution deniers need to provide a scientific alternative. So far all I've seen from these people is something like "Complexity therefore magic".
Five books. And after reading all that, not to mention countless science websites, science blogs, science videos, and my own observations in museums and in nature, and I'm suppose to throw it all out?
You're right about websites which are not reliable. Some of them are just plain dishonest. They are written by evolution deniers. An example is the Discovery Institute which biologists call "Crackpot Central".
Everything I write here is pointless because anyone who still denies basic scientific facts like evolution by natural selection is obviously incapable of learning anything. They have some kind of mental block that seems to have destroyed their curiosity. So instead of studying the evidence as explained by the scientists who have made those discoveries, they depend on professional liars who have never discovered anything and have never contributed anything important to biology. Listen to the crackpots all you want. Nobody cares. Nobody cares you're wasting your entire life denying what you are and where you came from. It's your problem, not mine. If people don't want to fix their own problems, I don't care.
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If you have some real evidence go for it Alex, still waiting.😕
Is that you Bobyyy? 😕
It's not just complex information Alex or Bobyyy, it's also specified information that we find in the cell, especially DNA RNA, the glycogen code( sugar code) endogenous electric fields, etc.
Like I said guys, it's a complex complicated issue. It will take time to bring you guys and gals on board and put the issue in a simple, straightforward manner so we can all understand it. I'm learning too so let's all try and be civil out here. I'll address any questions people may have.
Baby steps!😉
Just thought of something that may help also. Instead of throwing a boat load of copy and paste sites, why not try bringing a single idea or aspect to the conversation, and those who have some knowledge on them can throw their ideas out. Lets try to not cast aspersions on others but let's have some meaningful dialogue out here.
I understand rich, but remember every person alive has biases and prejudices which influence and color their world. I've seen evidence that suggests man did evolve from an MRCA(Most recent common ancestor) with chimps. I just let my faith take over in a situation like that. Its hard for some people to do that so be patient with others. 😉
I'm saying I don't understand everything Richie, and nobody does. Some things for me are unshakable though, can't discuss them on this forumn because of restrictions but can PM you if you want to discuss it further.
Lay it on me Rich, I'm all ears and open minded.Let's see what ya got. 😊
Have to watch the references to religious figures Rich.
That's one rule I can't bend or the powers that be will short circuit this program, thanks.
Evolution is easy to understand even for people with mental blocks. It's as simple as a 10 piece jigsaw puzzle.
Hence it's popularity. You can even pretend that it's the only way life on earth could unwind. Still, you can't beat Star Trek.
Show me the common ancestor of mankind and I'll consider it.