Get rid of Vacation?

Most people's vacations are planned. If you start a daily chess game before you go, you should plan on making moves while on vacation. After all, it IS chess, not work!  And it's not like there's just no way you can get to a phone on your vacation!

At least this site allows you to report someone who seems to be abusing it, just as if they let their clock run out in a rapid game or something, while dead lost. Poor sportsmanship should get you banned after a strike or two. 

So people aren't allowed to start games before holidays now? How long before a holiday must they stop creating new games? After all, the time a daily game lasts isn't something they can know in advance. Also, have you considered that maybe they want to, yknow, go on VACATION and put the chess aside? Or, if they only have limited access/time to play the game, because they're on VACATION, should they keep moving and risk blundering it away because you couldn't stand to wait the few days they were on vacation for?

imo if they are in a dead lost position and dragging it out, fine, that's probably abusing the vacation(unless they have other games they are using legitimate vacation for). but if it is still a game, as someone put it earlier in this thread, they are perfectly allowed to use the vacation time, because there are plenty of real-life reasons for someone to put down a daily game for a few days, and it's you demanding they resign a game they can still play that is uncalled for.

Perhaps there should be TWO Daily Chess rooms-one for those who think chess is a chore, and would like to take 2 weeks off from the game, so they can do "other things"---and those of us who don't, who like chess, and who ESPECIALLY play on our vacations!

I would support this, maybe a settings choice to always pair with players who have agreed that an individual game should be no-vacation. We have no-vacation tournaments, so I think it shouldn't be too difficult to look for no-vacation individual games as a setting.

Yes of course, but not everyone wants to think about their daily games that way. I think the option to no-vacation for individual games would be nice though (but I wouldn't use it ) 

This debate has been ongoing since Chess.com began operation. I don't think that players going on vacation, even if they are deliberately delaying a game, is a big deal. I periodically log on, check my games, and make my moves when it is my turn. If an opponent is on vacation, they just aren't in the day's rotation.

As an aside, when I first joined Chess.com, there was a big push for no-vacation tournaments. A few years later, I did a cursory study of several large vacation and no-vacation tournaments. There was no significant difference in the times that it took for completion. No-vacation tournaments were a little shorter, but when a tournament takes two or three years for completion, does an extra month or two really matter?

The way that I look at it, people who engage in delaying tactics are just trying to upset me.  If I get upset, they have won that battle.  Why let some jerk get the best of me?

Well, it requires you to keep logging in and checking, even though the guy hasn't moved in days. In a 24-hr daily game, you log in every day to see what your oppt did. If he suddenly takes a vacation, you might get tired of logging in each day to nothing new, and then one day, you might even forget, and so he WINS on time. That's probably why some of them take "vacation"--as a tactic to actually win the game by hoping you won't check in every day, not just psychologically.  Unless you have an alert set on your phone or something, you can easily lose to these abusers. 

Eh it is a pro and a con and unless the Chess.com developers or maintenence people change it, there is no way to get rid of it truly. 

I don't like it personally, however if someone is acutally taking a vacation it could be very useful, so that is why it can be a pro and con, but I guess we are just hoping that people don't use it just to be a bother. 

You do realize people sometimes go on vacation to get away from the internet for a few days?  Try hiking in southeastern Utah sometime.  Very scenic, good for the soul.

If you're like me, very few of your opponents use vacation.  Just block the ones that do and you won't be paired with them again.  

Play in No Vacation tournaments.  Problem solved.

Put in a no vacation option. Problem solved.

I am currently in a game where my opponent is on his 3rd multiday vacation. How unfair to me, making me constantly check in to see if he moved. Our position is even; he is just too lazy to keep up the schedule or trying to get me to leave. Who knows. 

My opponent is using his vacation a little bit at a time, each move, to give him like a "day and a half" per move. In a Daily game, when he's down to 20 min, he goes on "vacation", each move.   What a stupid thing this "vacation"!  They should have the option to play without it, as crawfe says.

Let me start by saying that i have no desire to get into an online argument about this topic.  It has been beaten to death, and will not go away.  That i can accept.  Now to address your response.

You agreed to a 1 day per move game. 

You have no idea why your opponent is using his vacation.  Which they are free to use. 

How is it "unfair" to you, that your opponent is using vacation?

I have never understand the excuse that its unfair that someone has to check in to see if the opponent has moved or not?  Very simple to resolve.  You can get email, text notifications if its your move.  If you are logging in to your account to do anything, all you need to do is check to see if it is your move.  A matter of a few seconds.

I do applaud you for the fact that all you play is Daily chess.  Usually these types of rants come form those that solely play speed chess (lack of patience).

No one is trying to make you leave the game.  That decision can only be made by you. 

Enjoy your day!

Daily games can go on for months so vacation options is a good idea!!! Sorry crawfe!!

I have played games that have taken years to complete.

The average chess game is about 40 moves. That means the "average" Daily game would be 80 days, or not yet 3 months.  Most people know beforehand if they're going on vacation within 3 months. The weird thing is, unless you are going someplace without any cellphone reception, you can still make your moves. Also, call me weird but if I take any vacation, I play a lot of chess! That's one of the things to do in your downtime after visiting the sites, hiking or whatever! So yeah, vacation sucks. I think there should be an option. People abuse it too easily by taking "vacation" every move to pad out their time. Gimme a break.

OK you got a point there I wld play chess on holiday too.