Have Staff Mods destroyed the forums?

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robbie_1969 wrote:
CrystalMoon wrote:
 

I think that is a perfectly justified criticism.  I hadn't read those threads.  I just locked them with a caveat about such discussions in the forums

 

Then perhaps rather than arbitrarily lock threads that you have not read you might take the time to ascertain the views of those who have contributed to them because your approach in the Brexit thread was draconian, you seemed intent to apply the letter of the law rather than the spirit of it , it was wholly unnecessary to lock it for it had veered off from a political discussion and your action has spoiled what was a good thread.  Surely a moderator should walk lightly on the ground not stomp up and down policing the forums.

Even if we have the right its not always necessary to insist upon it.

I appreciate your POV.  I did read through some of the thread(s) before locking it.  It has nothing to do with following the "letter of the law" but rather with applying rules consistently and as objectively as possible.   I locked the thread rather than deleted it since, as VintagePawn explained, there IS some lack of certainty.  If my action for some reason is deemed incorrect, the thread can always be unlocked. -  So, it's not ruined, but detained. 

 

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CrystalMoon wrote:
 

I appreciate your POV. 

 

What you did was not incorrect and you were perfectly within your jurisdiction to lock the thread for the site rules are that there should be no political discussion. However even when we have the right and even when we can act within our jurisdiction it does not necessitate that we are compelled to exercise that right especially if there is some other mitigating circumstance.

In other words we weigh up the factors in our mind and attempt to come to a consensus through subjecting our reasons to the process of falsification, like we do when we are considering a chess variation.  "I can take the pawn", "I have the legal right to take the pawn", "I want to take the pawn but am I forced to take the pawn?" "Is it really necessary?"

Perhaps you felt that it was simply a matter of legality, the thread was political and should be locked, which is fine.  However what if there are other mitigating circumstances? "Kaynight was getting a sound thrashing!", "The kids were enjoying it, it was like jelly and ice cream for them!", "It was not overtly political or heated and it was informative",  "Erik will never find out!",  "I like that robbie_1969 he's a poet and a Chessbomb and is devilishly handsome", etc etc.

Of course you are a moderator and you do not need to justify anything to a peasant like me and I apologise for the rather caustic tone of my initial post, you have an admirable way of taking criticism and you will do awesome because humility is a rare and beautiful thing and I mean that sincerely.

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I personally didn't see any reason to lock the Brexit threads, as everyone was getting on very well, but if you are going to bar all politics then fine; that's better than having double standards.

But it makes sense to change this description, for the sake of removing unclarity

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There are a few places like that. In v3 the descriptions are gone, but in general, Off-Topic is lightly moderated; some things still are off limits there. 

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kaynight wrote:

Condensing robbie's thread. He is a peasant. End of.

Lol, ahhh its so true! is there no justice!

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VintagePawn wrote:

There are a few places like that. In v3 the descriptions are gone, but in general, Off-Topic is lightly moderated; some things still are off limits there. 

Is political discussion one of those things?

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I've always thought that the forums at [REMOVED by staff, no competitors] are great.

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RonaldJosephCote wrote:

     Your confusing the chain of command Robert. All mods moderate the forums. All staff administer the site. The mods report to David, and David reports to Erik. That's my understanding.

 

Yeah, but the title begins "Have Staff Mods".

That implies that there are Mods for Staff. I want to know more! 

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Several people, actually more that several, seem very adamant that what started as a political thread has evolved into something else and something worth preserving.  So I've unlocked  the Brexit thread based upon that.   I can't promise it will stay that way but as of now I'm considering it "the exception that proves the rule".

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I think that is a good decision. Smile

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The brexit thread is way more civilised than your average bishop or knight thread, that's for sure.

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@CrystalMoon, Why was this thread locked? - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/when-a-mod-violates-tos---do-nothing

The reason you gave sounded pretty lame. Don't get me wrong, but it seems like you have an obsession over locking threads.

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ProCrazy wrote:

@CrystalMoon, Why was this thread locked? - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/when-a-mod-violates-tos---do-nothing

The reason you gave sounded pretty lame. Don't get me wrong, but it seems like you have an obsession over locking threads.

It devolved into personal and libelous attacks which violates the ToS.

Don't worry. I'm sure  don't have you wrong.

My obsession is keeping the forums family-friendly, civil and within the stated forum policies and Terms of Service.  

 

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CrystalMoon wrote:

It devolved into personal and libelous attacks which violates the ToS.

Don't worry. I'm sure  don't have you wrong.

My obsession is keeping the forums family-friendly, civil and within the stated forum policies and Terms of Service.  

 

Obsession ?????????

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsession

  • : a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal

  • : someone or something that a person thinks about constantly or frequently

  • : an activity that someone is very interested in or spends a lot of time doing

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CrystalMoon wrote:
ProCrazy wrote:

@CrystalMoon, Why was this thread locked? - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/when-a-mod-violates-tos---do-nothing

The reason you gave sounded pretty lame. Don't get me wrong, but it seems like you have an obsession over locking threads.

It devolved into personal and libelous attacks which violates the ToS.

Don't worry. I'm sure  don't have you wrong.

My obsession is keeping the forums family-friendly, civil and within the stated forum policies and Terms of Service.  

 

I don't always like CrystalMoon's methods, but she is usually correct. 

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MarcoBR444 wrote:
CrystalMoon wrote:

It devolved into personal and libelous attacks which violates the ToS.

Don't worry. I'm sure  don't have you wrong.

My obsession is keeping the forums family-friendly, civil and within the stated forum policies and Terms of Service.  

 

Obsession ?????????

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsession

....

: an activity that someone is very interested in or spends a lot of time doing

 

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Do you always take the definition that puts things in a negative light? meh.png

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VintagePawn wrote:
MarcoBR444 wrote:
CrystalMoon wrote:

It devolved into personal and libelous attacks which violates the ToS.

Don't worry. I'm sure  don't have you wrong.

My obsession is keeping the forums family-friendly, civil and within the stated forum policies and Terms of Service.  

 

Obsession ?????????

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsession

....

: an activity that someone is very interested in or spends a lot of time doing

 

Just saying

 

Do you always take the definition that puts things in a negative light?

GAWWD!

I think you are trolling me.

If you (moderators) enable the group TROLLU (it is disabled as you know well), we are going to invite you and you will be a LEVEL 10 troll.

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Staff handles group issues, not moderators. So if it got closed, it was either by the group SA or staff.

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It was by staff. Because one single member (kingofshedinjas) was harassing another group and that group reported us.

Of course, staff didn't care to investigate and instead of dealing with kingofshedinjas they just closed the group. Typical. 

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